M151-A2 6 Wheel Drive ?

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M151-A2 6 Wheel Drive ?

Post by Brad Gates » Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:09 am

I ran across a M-151-A2 in use on a farm recently. But what really got my attention was it's a 6x6. It has 2 rear axles, a longer rear body tub to accomodate the 2 axles and 2 rear seats facing each other. Can you guys tell me anything about this version? Factory built, experimental, or aftermarket?

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Post by Ralph Fuller » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:21 am

Click on TNJ Murray site and scroll down to Stump Jumper. They are $15,000
http://www.tnjmurray.com/m151.htm
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Post by ohiomutt » Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:29 am

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Post by Rickf » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:59 pm

Ralph Fuller wrote:Click on TNJ Murray site and scroll down to Stump Jumper. They are $15,000
http://www.tnjmurray.com/m151.htm
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I just came home from Murrays. He has a new one being built right now.
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Post by Brad Gates » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:13 am

Thanks for the information.

I assume from the response that these are NOT factory built or a govenrment test/prototype vehicle. The vehicle I saw was a little different than the Murray one. I'll try to get some pictures and post them.

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Post by raymond » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:28 am

If you find that it is one of the original 6x6 military experimental prototypes, I hope you buy it. Something like that should not be turned over to bubba or relegated to the scrap yard. Even if you don't want it, you could always sell it. I'm sure someone would want it. Of course all this depends on it being on of the rare originals.

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Post by NavSecGru Joe » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:15 am

Brad,

This pic was shown of TNJ's website a while back. The caption was "XM408" which appeared to be both factory built and experimental.

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I agree with Raymond..... go back to the farm and look at the jeep closely. It may be an actual prototype. I still talk about a WWII 6x6 jeep prototype (MT-TUG) that we drove around a boy scout camp in Pennsylvania in the late 1950's. It was ONE of 15 built. Don't know what happened to it over the years.

Here's one of TNJ's earlier 6x6's from a few years ago.

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Looks a little different than the stump jumpers now being built.

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Post by Mr. Jeep » Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:00 am

Somebody sent me pics of one that they had built a few years back asking what I thought. I said you would'nt catch me riding in one on the thought of those two rear axles going everywhich way with that independent suspension. (ie, one would fold under while the other splayed out on a turn).

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Post by Rickf » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:47 pm

Mr. Jeep wrote:Somebody sent me pics of one that they had built a few years back asking what I thought. I said you would'nt catch me riding in one on the thought of those two rear axles going everywhich way with that independent suspension. (ie, one would fold under while the other splayed out on a turn).
Not possible since the geometry is the same for both axles therfore what one is doing the will be doing also. The only time they will be different is off road when one wheel is on a hump and the other is not. If you are going fast enough to roll in those circumstances then you probably should not be offroading!

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Post by svramselaar » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:08 am

hello

the four picture`s from the XM 408 are out the book
US military wheeled vehicles
from fred w crismon page 321

on the left side below is standing thad the XM408 used coils springs at the front as the m151 and it used pivoted leaf springs at the rear :shock:

this is not with the stumper jumper

with the leaf springs if the 2e axle (wheel)go up the 3e axle(wheel) is pusch down
so thad the waight is alwais over the two axels

if it not like this i lie with fred w crismon :oops: :D

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Post by Dan S » Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:24 pm

Our chapter president has come across a prototype MV called the Alley Cat. Only 4 were known to be built and his is the only one known to exist.

The Alley Cat looks like a scaled down hummer but is built using many M151 parts. I understand while there were only 4 Alley Cats made which were 4x4's there was a 6x6 version of this vehicle made in a bit greater qty (60 or 80 I think).

It looks like a scaled down hummer from the front, but is the size of an M151 and has a body like an M151. The idea for this prototype was to utilize the gobs of M151 surplus parts that were available.

If by any chance this vehicle looks at all like a scaled down hummer from the front, take a second look. It may be one of these prototype vehicles.

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Post by muttguru » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:05 am

Dan S wrote:Our chapter president has come across a prototype MV called the Alley Cat. Only 4 were known to be built and his is the only one known to exist.
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Hello Dan,

any chance of a pic or two, please?

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Post by Dan S » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:25 am

Here is a picture of the Alley Cat.
Another picture of it is on page 3 of Supply Line, Aug/Sept 2008.

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Post by Rickf » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:35 am

Aren't they the ones that are made by Carolina Growler?

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Post by muttguru » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:30 pm

Rickf wrote:Aren't they the ones that are made by Carolina Growler?

Rick

Rick, looks like a Growler to me also. Here's an older pic from the archives:-


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