SCHWARZE HORN (PHOTOS)

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SCHWARZE HORN (PHOTOS)

Postby Charlie S. » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:02 pm

Hi,
a friend found this Schwarze horn and we want to know if it's correct for a G503 .
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Tks in advance for your opinon.
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Postby Jon » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:05 pm

Charlie,
No mate. Trumpet is wayyyyyyyy toooooooo Longggggggg

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Postby Charlie S. » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:01 pm

Thanks John for your reply.
Any idea if Model 1944 is the type of horn or is a production date ?
Do you know if the g503 Schwarze horn has more or less a similar plate inside ?
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Postby Jon » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:41 pm

I read it as Model 44 not 1944.

This may help in the dimensions you're looking for.

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Postby Charlie S. » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:03 pm

Tks John again,
You are correct is Model 44, not 1944 :oops:
Tks for dimensions.

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Postby lt.luke » Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:53 pm

Charlie, if I'm looking at your pictures correctly, notice also that there is no square box on the back. I also don't recall any pictures of G503 Schwartz horns having the data tag.
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Postby iron duck » Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:32 pm

Is there evidence the Scharze horns have ever been used on jeeps please ?
A few very knowledgable friends I know told me they were never used on jeeps.

However I have seen at least one unrestored slat grill with a schwarze horn, I haven't seen any factory pictures with one installed.

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Postby Bill M » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:29 am

Interesting... on page 128 AAW vol 1 revised the GPW is listed as having the Schwarze horn and the Willys MB as having the Sparks Withington. Data from this page is reputedly extracted from ORD 14-2 Interchangeability List for Ordnance, General Purpose and Combat Vehicles, 5 June 1945 :roll:
Luc, this is the only written data I can find on the Schwartz horn at the moment.

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Postby lt.luke » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:04 am

I have never (or heard of) seen a Sparks-Withington. Anyone have a pic?
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Postby Jon » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:18 am

Sparks-Withington

AKA.......SPARks-withingTON... SPARTON.....

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Postby lt.luke » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:20 am

very clever!
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Postby Viking27 » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:43 pm

Guys,

So a Schwarze horn is more correct of a 7-22-1942 GPW?

If anyone has an original one...I have a NOS FORD horn to trade

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Postby Carsten » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:44 pm

Viking27 wrote:...I have a NOS FORD horn to trade...

A Ford horn? :shock: :?
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Postby Frank » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:30 am

iron duck wrote:Is there evidence the Scharze horns have ever been used on jeeps please ?
A few very knowledgable friends I know told me they were never used on jeeps.

However I have seen at least one unrestored slat grill with a schwarze horn, I haven't seen any factory pictures with one installed.

Kind regards, Luc


Hmmmm never used on jeeps :?: I have a Schwartze horn on my slatgrill, so it is used on at least one jeep :wink: Don`t know about factory installations, but you wrote Never used, and that is not correct :roll:
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