Chuck Lutz wrote:
First of all, ANY can with a BIG X and NO MARKINGS is a mystery. If you don't know who or where it was made, that's a mystery.
True, but ten there is plenty of unmarked cans to add to the unknown manufacturer/ unknown nationality list.
However, since the beginning of the jerrycan forum, by "mistery cans" we always meant those unmarked cans with the european kind of spout. No matter how many times you want to add round spouted, experimental or whatever.
1) Glad you understand that the USMC style can is basically an American can with a Euro spout. That would be why the term "USMC STYLE" works.
Wait a minute, it was you who mentioned USMC style cans, without explaining what you would mean by that. No way just the euro spout by itself denotes a USMC style, even if the USMC chose that kind of spout for whatever reason. This kind of spout is usually called an euro style spout.
2) No....there are THREE distinctly different cans with the Big "X" and no markings on them found in the USA. All have the clam-shell design, three handle top, Cam-lock spout, are "Big X" sided and have no markings...but they have design differences. They have been a mystery to everyone here as well. Don't cling to the "only one type" theory, there are several of the "Big X, no marking" styles.....you've just seen one example.
I am not clinging
to one type only theory. It is just that one thing is the kind appeared in the ETO, as per WWII pictures and per surfacing examples, and one thing is the three different kinds ( whatever they are) found in the USA.
3) You obviously have only seen ONE of the different cans made in America that preceeded the USMC can and the standard US style cans. This is why you are confused and believe that the one style you have seen was not made in the States I guess.
Obviously? I repeated ad nauseam that I am only speaking of that one kind of jerrycan. The others, whose differences you might care to explain, were never considered in my discussion. You asked privately about the tabs on my cans, and I told you more than once that there is no hole. Make of that whatever you like to.
4) We have mbecause they were all made here. We weren't copying the "Big X, no marking" cans when we started production we were sent the German jerry cans by the British and perhaps by then they sent us their version of it.any types of the "Big X, no markings" cans here and that is
It is still not sure whence the cans to copy came from...
5) None of the THREE mystery cans I have are like the German or Brit cans so they weren't copied from one of them. The small details of construction I'm talking about here, not the look from 10' or so.
Any can looking like a british
can is not likely to be mistaken for a " mistery can", for the simple reason of the rectangle in the x pattern.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and ask you to let some common sense influence you. Forget your preconcieved notion about where the big X unmarked cans were made.....
On that I am not answering you, but let me remind that you have not, by no mean, the exclusive on common sense.
This way you can have your "Big X, unmarked" cans in Europe that were made in Europe and they can remain a "mistery" to you and we can have our "Big X, unmarked" cans that were made here in the USA that don't resemble the German or British cans when closely inspected and aren't really much of a mystery to us at all!
Then stop calling them mistery cans
and keep this definition for those cans that you do not know enough about to make up your idea, or prove where they were made.
Luca....for just a minute....we were supplying the WORLD with jerry cans, 22 million of them....if we find lots of the mystery cans here, would it be LOGICAL to assume that we somehow got ahold of early production cans from the Germans, British or Italians in quantity and shipped them BACK to the States after we came up with the improved design for our own forces? Really, we'd ship BACK to the States a significant number of those cans still found these days when we were supplying the worlds' armies?
What has the quantity of standard shaped jerrycans have to do with the issue? Do not forget the can shortage, the fact that in many pictures the british style seems to outnumber the US style, and also the fact that the allegedly better US style ( which I will not even discuss) was not better enough to replace the clamshell style worldwide after the war.