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SF Runningboards

Post by siberian » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:28 pm

Gentlemen, looking for a set of SF Running boards to provide a bit of protection from the tourists. I would like to find a set like these:

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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by Retired War Horses » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:14 pm

Those are actually rocker panel/jacking plates reversed, the one you see in the pic on the left side actually goes on the right side and vice versa....somewhat ingenius though. One of the trucks in my shops has those exact models but they are being used as they were intended.....as a outer rocker panel protection and side jacking reinforcement for a Hi-Lift Jack.
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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by siberian » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:25 am

That's interesting. Now that you pointed it out, it's a clear adaptation. They may not be so hard to find after all. My motive for using them was purely a body panel self-defense mechanism.
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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by unclesamsurplus » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:40 am

you can build a set. are they steel or aluminum?

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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by icentropy » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:01 pm

Not to hijack, but what kind of seat is that?
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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by Retired War Horses » Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:15 pm

That's the armored seat they put in gmv's
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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by ragman » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:50 am

Does anybody know who makes the rear cargo rails? If Miltary Systems Group makes those they sure aren't touting them on their website.

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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by Pablo66 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:37 pm

Just thought I'd resurrect this old thread... Are these rocker panel protectors / jacking plates readily accessible? Or would I be better off fabricating them myself? (Tricky question - am I a good fabricator with all the necessary tools? No, I am not, but these do look pretty simple.)

Do they just bolt through the rocker panel? Or are there other brackets/mounting points?

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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by Urban Camo » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:04 pm

The jack rails made by MSG have 3 pins on the outsides of them to be able to attach the removable side steps and ammo can holders.
I'm not sure what they did with them on the pictured rails if those were made by MSG.
I couldn't find the jack rails for sale.
I'm thinking about just making some.
I do have a set of civilian aluminum skid plates that basically have that contour to them but extend all the way under to the frame rail.
I'm thinking about cutting them up and just keeping the piece that wraps around the outer edge.
I have a set of the aluminum armor that was used awhile back but didn't seem to be very effective and was later scrapped and upgraded with actual steel armor plate.
That aluminum armor used a set of backing plates that went inside along the body under the doors. I was planning on using the interior backing plates to help stiffen up mounting .
There is somebody selling the removable steps that are made out of extruded metal.

Not sure if that help any . I guess I'm sort of waiting hoping some of the jack rails become available before I have to make something or hack up what I have.

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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by icentropy » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:03 pm

I looked up the rails made by MSG, they seems very simple. Could be fabbed up pretty quickly. Are the ones on this truck installed backwards or is it just me? I'd make up a set of these and trade you for your aluminum RPPs :D those are handy on civy trucks.
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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by Pablo66 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:15 pm

Yes, that helps!
Thank you. I've seen the SF steps for sale, but I'm just looking for rocker protection and something to support a hi-lift.

On the one hand, having a skid plate going to the frame rail would be great to have, but the extra weight would kind of be a bummer... The previous owners stripped off all the extra weight, including ALL the skid plates, so I'm starting from scratch protection-wise.

My truck was a test mule for a flight module for early predator drones, before they decided to put all the "pilots" in a warehouse in the desert. They took off all the extra weight they could, and installed remote reservoir shocks.
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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by icentropy » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:23 pm

Pablo66 wrote:Yes, that helps!
Thank you. I've seen the SF steps for sale, but I'm just looking for rocker protection and something to support a hi-lift.

On the one hand, having a skid plate going to the frame rail would be great to have, but the extra weight would kind of be a bummer... The previous owners stripped off all the extra weight, including ALL the skid plates, so I'm starting from scratch protection-wise.

My truck was a test mule for a flight module for early predator drones, before they decided to put all the "pilots" in a warehouse in the desert. They took off all the extra weight they could, and installed remote reservoir shocks.
Your truck sounds very interesting, I've made full RPPs before out of aluminum for Hummers, they turned out to be 40lbs each side but were very very strong. Overkill really. I think the factory RPPs are great but they require the underboddy mounting brackets that I didn't think HMMWVs had. These just bolt right through the rocker panels with little backing plates. MSG says 75lbs each side which means they're def made out of steel. Don't see the reason for steel. Lot of extra weight and as a jack reinforcement, a .25" tempered aluminum rail would work just fine without adding much weight. (less than half i'm sure)
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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by Pablo66 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:45 pm

icentropy wrote: Your truck sounds very interesting, I've made full RPPs before out of aluminum for Hummers, they turned out to be 40lbs each side but were very very strong. Overkill really. I think the factory RPPs are great but they require the underboddy mounting brackets that I didn't think HMMWVs had. These just bolt right through the rocker panels with little backing plates. MSG says 75lbs each side which means they're def made out of steel. Don't see the reason for steel. Lot of extra weight and as a jack reinforcement, a .25" tempered aluminum rail would work just fine without adding much weight. (less than half i'm sure)
Yes, the truck's history is pretty interesting. My brother works for the company.

I really like the idea of aluminum RPPs. What size L channel would you recommend?

Btw, I was just checking out your websites... Cool stuff!
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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by Urban Camo » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:52 pm

"Are the ones on this truck installed backwards or is it just me? " It's just you!!
No there mounted backwards. The right side is bolted to the left side and the left to the right side.
I saw that picture a while back. I wish MSG would answer there phone or even reply to an email now and again. But then I guess at what they get for stuff they don't need to sell much of it.
I have the part #'s around somewhere for the civi mounting brackets .

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Re: SF Runningboards

Post by icentropy » Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:58 pm

Pablo66 wrote:
icentropy wrote: Your truck sounds very interesting, I've made full RPPs before out of aluminum for Hummers, they turned out to be 40lbs each side but were very very strong. Overkill really. I think the factory RPPs are great but they require the underboddy mounting brackets that I didn't think HMMWVs had. These just bolt right through the rocker panels with little backing plates. MSG says 75lbs each side which means they're def made out of steel. Don't see the reason for steel. Lot of extra weight and as a jack reinforcement, a .25" tempered aluminum rail would work just fine without adding much weight. (less than half i'm sure)
Yes, the truck's history is pretty interesting. My brother works for the company.

I really like the idea of aluminum RPPs. What size L channel would you recommend?

Btw, I was just checking out your websites... Cool stuff!
Stock RPP height is 5.25" From a cost standpoint i'd suggest a standard 6061-T6 L extruded bar. .25" thick should be plenty for what it's for. If you want to use them flipped around as steps the typical step width on Hummer RPPs is 4".

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