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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby bobgourami » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:12 pm

Ed Menees wrote:Does this tell you anything? You probably have a Chevrolet bar which is too short.

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I think you have something here. I got this lock from eBay described as a "30's truck lock" so I should imagine that this is most likely my problem.

All the info on this forum pointed to these style locks all being the same just with different cylinders. I think I'll have to fashion a longer bar as a replacement.

Which of these three is the Jeep version?
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby simon king » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:07 pm

Jon wrote:Simon,
Al's GPW is a Mid production lock.
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Jon - wasn't actually referring to the lock itself -but at the bottom edge of the glovebox compare the gaps between the hinge and the lip around the glove box aperture - just wondered if this was of relevance as it seems to differ significantly
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby Jon » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:37 pm

Ahh. I see now what you mean, maybe that's just the angle of the shot, but you may have a point there.....

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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:55 am

Ok, then I got the wrong striker bar...

My story goes like this:

I didn't have the time and patience to restore my jeep's original body in the first place (It's still sitting in my garage, waiting to be restored...), so I ordered a MDJuan body.
I needed a special one (Willys script, round tank sump and glove box) and I knew that something would go wrong.
And indeed: They "forgot" the glove box. TADAAAA!!

So I cut in the opening myself and found used glovebox floor and door frame. I welded them in.
When I found out that the H700 lock wouldn't work on my homemade glovebox with the early glovebox door, I just used a later glovebox door and forgot about it.
It is still working fine and the early glovebox door is sitting here on a shelf and gets the daily admiration it deserves.

So I always thought it was my or MDJuan's fault...

But now...
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby bobgourami » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:59 am

Make this another thing to add to the "things I've learned on the G" list.

It's worth noting then that if anybody is searching for the an early Jeep lock, that locks destined for other vehicles, although visually very similar, do not all fit..... makes those Jeep locks all the more difficult to find now :cry:
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:34 am

Does your's work with the H700 key? Or with some other key?
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby bobgourami » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:36 am

No, an H700 fits but won't turn it. I have a locksmith who says he can re-cut it for me. I have another lock which looks the same but an h700 doesn't fit the barrel at all.
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Wed Apr 04, 2012 3:46 am

If it won't work out, let me know.

I already turned some locks into H700 locks.
It's pretty easy.

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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby svt40 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:57 pm

Does anyone know if when they did the changeover from locking glovebox knobs to the push type did they change just the lock or did they change the entire door? Not asking about the factory but in the field. Or do we know if they even complied with this in the field on a regular basis?
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:23 am

Why should they go and exchange glovebox doors in the field??
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby Jon » Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:33 am

What is the correct length of the lock shaft......as asked above.......

Sure would appreciate it.

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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:20 am

Jon, I think it's also a matter of the correct position of the slot in the striker bar.

Mine is 35mm long and to short, as Bobgourami mentioned, wayyyyy to short.

Something in the 45mm area seems to be better!

Feel free to send me your collection of striker bars, I'll be happy to find the correct one and have some new ones cast.

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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby Jon » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:57 am

Ha!. yeah. right.......I sold all my bars a long time ago....... only empty bottles left.

All we need is someone with one that works, and we're in business.
I just needed the info to add to the Parts Colours Page thingie.

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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby Ed Menees » Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:59 am

Jon,

I will try to get you an answer this weekend. I'm pretty sure it's the middle striker but I will have to confirm.
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Re: Glove box lock problem

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:11 am

Ed Menees wrote:Jon,

I will try to get you an answer this weekend. I'm pretty sure it's the middle striker but I will have to confirm.



Sounds logical to me, as the lower position of the slot would make the bar virtually longer!

Ed, do you think it would be possible to have a run of these re-cast?
I'd certainly be in the market for 4 or 5...

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