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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:06 pm

No way for a safe identification without pictures, as either winch (and parts) can be mounted on either jeep.

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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby dennis baker » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:46 am

and the cj mount plate and mb/gpw plates are different..............but can be adapted...............
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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:34 pm

Almost every part of the two winch setups is different, but exchangeable.
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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby DavidA » Thu May 24, 2012 12:34 pm

I have repro winch shifter handle now available and can get mounting plates.
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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby Alasdair Brass » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:35 pm

Hi guys,
I have mentioned this before, although maybe not here. I have a catalog from a war surplus company listing jeep winch kits and 6 x footman loops are listed. An opinion has been expressed that they fitted on the front left fender and were used to secure the rope. This could be so but is there any proof?

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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby illustr8r » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:28 am

'44 GPW 192067, 4/1/44, U.S.N.
http://www.g503.com/serial-numbers/view ... rd_id=2897
'44 Bantam T3 #49202, 8/17/44, (#0704670 est.)
http://www.design-consultants.com/tempo ... W&T3.2.jpg
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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby Alasdair Brass » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:57 pm

Absolutely correct, got my left and rights mixed up !! Thanks Illustr8r Nice drawing too, BTW.

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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby Gary25 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:37 pm

The fender mounted winch rope drawing above is from my original factory blue print that I posted on this subject back in 2009. The original blue print does have dimensions for the spacing of the footman loops. I could try to post a clearer picture if the dimensions are needed by any?

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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby Alasdair Brass » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:26 pm

Hi Gary,
I for one would find that really handy and any dimensions for the straps, if any are there.

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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby DavidA » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:48 am

Thanks Gary25 and Illustr8r.

Could you check the drawing for date drawn? I would be very interested to see whether this was WWII or postwar. Thanks for the drawing that you have posted.
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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby DavidA » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:58 am

I have just scrapped a CJ2A... It had a capstan winch mounting plate along with the original Caution plate, and the proper crankshft pulley... These are all in excellent condition.. No other parts were on the jeep when I got it...My question is... are the MB and Cj2a plates the same ? Also, since I don't have the rest of the winch I'm considering selling these items... What is a fair value ? I can be reached at OMalleyWR@AOL.com .. or here.. Mark O


Check them out here: http://www.1942willys.com/Braden_Capstan_Winch.html Click on the photos and you will see the parts breakdowns.
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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby ElwoodJayBlues » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:45 pm

DavidA wrote:Thanks Gary25 and Illustr8r.

Could you check the drawing for date drawn? I would be very interested to see whether this was WWII or postwar. Thanks for the drawing that you have posted.


I got a bigass copy of the complete drawing somewhere...
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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby illustr8r » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:56 pm

Since the drawing shows part of a glove box door, and "T" windshield hold-downs (though wrongly positioned), doesn't appear to be a CJ depicted.

Drawing date would be interesting to know. Measures for footman loop placements of more interest to me, if anyone might share.

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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby DavidA » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:55 pm

Although maybe not for the CJ, maybe it was a post war design for the many MB/GPW's that were still in use (up to Korea?). I personally like the way it was laid out there on the fender and always wondered where they put the dang rope. I have seen the drawing before but never really got into the details.

Truth be told, this is still the coolest of accessories whether WWII or not. :wink:
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Re: Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

Postby David V » Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:03 am

Can someone tell me where I can get a detailed mounting diagram and lists of parts for the Braden.
Is there a TM ?

All I have is a bad photocopy from the Becker. I'd like to see ALL the parts and see HOW it goes together.

I imagine winches have some kind of clutch or slip gear that don't effect the engine idle if the winch blocks or stops. How does this work on the Braden ?

I think I've found a J2 head to get started but would like a bit more info before laying out the cash. I have a '44 MB. Is there anything specific I should look out for.

Still looking for a video showing one in action...

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