99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

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99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby Chuck Lutz » Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:34 pm

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Re: 99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby Kevin Monahan » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:13 pm

Thanks for posting that Chuck, quite a few supprises there. :)

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Re: 99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby raymond » Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:41 pm

Eighty percent of Soviet males born in 1923 didn’t survive WWII.


60 to 75% (estimates vary considerably) of Europe's Jews were killed during WW2.
So being Jewish made one statistically more likely to survive WW2 than being a Russian male born in 1923 :shock:

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Re: 99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby wreckless » Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:19 pm

How many of those Soviets were killed by the NKVD instead of the Nazis?
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Re: 99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby Chuck Lutz » Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:40 pm

The Nazi's did not have the opportunity to murder the other 25% of the Jews in Europe....

I think the death rate of European Jews at the hands of the Nazi's is directionally proportional to their accessability to them to kill them. I would bet if the question was ..."What percentage of the Jews taken into custody by the Nazi's were died?"....that the number would be nearer to 95% or higher.

Conversely if the question about the Soviets was "What percentage of Soviet soldiers were killed by the Nazi's?" it would have been LOWER.

The Soviets put about 34,000,000 soldiers in the field in WWII....while 7,000,000 died officially, some claim 11,000,000 is a more realistic number...

So if 11 million out of 34 million died...that's a measly 33% of their forces died... I think we fielded about 16 million and suffered about 418,000 dead in WWII...

As far as the Soviets born in 1923 having a death rate in WWII at 80%....you have to remember Stalin ordered the slaughter of former POWs held by the Nazi's so some of the deaths are on his orders.

Of the nearly 250,000 Germans engaged in the Battle of Stalingrad.... of the 91,000 Germans left alive who surrendered at Stalingrad, about 45,000 died marching into captivity and of the remaining 46,000 POWs, an additional 39,000 died in the gulags leaving only 7,000 to return to Germany...so of the 250,000 German soldiers in that offensive.....

The death rate was much higher than 99%....in fact, closer to 99.82% of them never made it home after WWII. (OK, some were Italian and Bulgarian or from conquored nations...)

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Re: 99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby all4jpn » Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:40 pm

graph at bottom says no us civilian deaths...

above mentions 6 deaths at a picnic due to the japanese balloons...not to mention the other us civilians killed in other areasoutside the u.s.
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Re: 99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby raymond » Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:02 pm

Interesting site Chuck. (I won't put up a smiley as the amount of death documented in those facts would make doing so seem callous.) Analyzing statistics can sure produce some interesting results. For instance, I live near St. Louis Mo, which has been named one of, if not the most violent city in America on a per capita basis. But, if you stay out of a couple dozen square blocks north and south of downtown St. Louis, a completely different picture emerges.

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Re: 99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby HankII » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:19 am

I knew a guy Rudolph Nolte - in the German army, captured @ Stalingrad & sent to POW/labor camp. Russians released him in 1952 when the war was over.
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Re: 99 Facts about WWII...you know most of 'em.

Postby Cobra Doc » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:12 am

Freemasons were also targeted by the Nazis for the death camps, but still managed to have a broad membership, including in the ranks of the Wehrmacht.
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