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What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover?

Postby icentropy » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:39 pm

Just curious as my truck will basically be in standard soft top HMMWV trim. Anybody really know? The A pillar seems fairly strong, The B pillar looks pretty flimsy and the C pillar is a joke, What do you guys think? will it crush completely? Should i invest in life insurance if i plan on taking my truck off roading? :D
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby dunsbr » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:05 am

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You should be OK.... :mrgreen:

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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby icentropy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:36 am

dunsbr wrote:Image

You should be OK.... :mrgreen:

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That looks like it got run over with a semi. :D there's no way that was a slow roll :P
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby Ozhumvee » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:26 pm

If you intend to take the truck off road, rolling it would probably the least of your worries unless you are doing something stupid.
Humvee's have a very low CofG and in normal use would be pretty hard to roll, a soft top even more so. I've never even felt uncomfortable in my M1026 with a roof top tent and spare tyre case on the roof. I suspect that a high speed moment on the highway would be more likely to roll it.
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby icentropy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:11 pm

Ozhumvee wrote:If you intend to take the truck off road, rolling it would probably the least of your worries unless you are doing something stupid.
Humvee's have a very low CofG and in normal use would be pretty hard to roll, a soft top even more so. I've never even felt uncomfortable in my M1026 with a roof top tent and spare tyre case on the roof. I suspect that a high speed moment on the highway would be more likely to roll it.

true, i certainly don't plan on rolling it over. I do plan on taking it off road and might even go to moab next year. If i do i will have my family (including my two young kids) in it so the dad in me makes me wonder IF it did happen, what would happen. I think I'll be installing a roll cage soon....
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby unclesamsurplus » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:56 pm

am general did extensive research and development regarding the hmmwv's potential to roll over, thus the wide stance and low center of gravity. before the additional 2 tons of armour was added rolling a hmmwv was very uncommon. a standard soft top hmmwv's B pillar is designed to sustain the trucks weight in case of a roll over. i would think seat belts and common sense will keep you and your passengers safe and secure off road.
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby Action » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:22 pm

But, you dont have the factory braces behind the front seats do you? I would be very concerned about that. The b-pillar may be strong, but if the body below it isn't, what good is it? I have put I slantback kit on a Humvee that I believed had rolled over. The b-pillar was just pushed to one side slightly. The c-pillar is only used to hold the softtop on and make a door jamb. The beam behind the seat should run from one side of the body to the other.

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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby icentropy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:27 pm

Action wrote:But, you dont have the factory braces behind the front seats do you? I would be very concerned about that. The b-pillar may be strong, but if the body below it isn't, what good is it? I have put I slantback kit on a Humvee that I believed had rolled over. The b-pillar was just pushed to one side slightly. The c-pillar is only used to hold the softtop on and make a door jamb. The beam behind the seat should run from one side of the body to the other.

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I made some brackets to hold the b billars steady but they're not nearly as structurally strong as the factory one as they don't run from side to side. They end and attach to the tunnel. They would be very strong keeping th b pillar from bowing in but not from bowing out.

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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby STUDENT-DRIVER » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:32 pm

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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby Hell On Wheels » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:10 pm

I have driven these truck to include soft tops in all different terrains; sands in the southwest asia and hills in Germany, before this truck would roll over you would probabley fall out. They are hard to turn over but no impossible. I have been close but thats playing around. This why I have one. You will be safe, just better have three point verse two point seat belt though :idea:
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby 86humv » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:01 pm

This....... :lol:
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby dilvoy » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:39 pm

86humv wrote:This....... :lol:
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That one looks like they forgot to lash it down and it fell off of a train at speed. You diden't untie it just to get the parts did you Greg? :D
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby 86humv » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:50 pm

Nope...its to messed up
The shoot didn't open in time.
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Re: What would happen if a softtop HMMWV had a slow rollover

Postby eisenhe » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:01 pm

Yep, that last one was definitely airdropped from a significant height, whether the chute didn't open or a helo jettisoned it.

The B-pillar is very strong. Mine recently rolled off a 15' embankment after a comealong snapped, and the B-pillar hooked a tree at the bottom -- stopped it dead and only bent the B-pillar about a half inch. It should handle a slow rollover with no difficulty!
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