North Bay V.P.

[13th Armored]

Whats your point Dave?
Are you not following the trail of events?
John posted on the 8th of June not the 10th.
Are you saying that the split was a done deal before a Board meeting?
Maybe there are communications you are not sharing with the members?
Again I ask as a member:
So you had not held a Board meeting as of May 23rd. Perhaps you can show us the minutes from that meeting, the date and place it was held and who attended. Is this a problem?

[mfrance]

Kurt has members in a quandry with double talk the split was not made public per his statement previously correcting Mamalesser, im not here to slam any of the running Vp's I know all three personally... just i know others that would have possibly stepped up if they knew the split before recieving ballots.... they didnt want to have 5- 7 cannidates for one area when two, now three are well known...when was the cut off date? general meeting was one announcement, John seems to be after deadline. I say again More public info/awareness for the members. Here are the ballots and no one can step forward to run fairly..

The split was never announced public on M.V.C.C. site, giving Sunny an unfair advantage to the election...
If John new about the split it gives him special privledge to things other members did not know? unfair advantage..
can't speak for Rory but i think he didn't know of split or oposition if date was pushed out for more names on ballot...
Also why the split if a V.P would become more active then the info gap should be filled...not needing a 707 / 415 split what makes this area a special circumstance area...
just questions to make sure every member has the right to a fair vote and or representation...

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=99222
above link for refrence..

[softskin_driver]

Dave do you have to have a board meeting to have a resolution?

[John Neuenburg]

..not needing a 707 / 415 split what makes this area a special circumstance area...
just questions to make sure every member has the right to a fair vote and or representation...

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=99222
above link for refrence..

Michael thanks for that link. It reminds us why the MVCC has been interested for years in keeping somebody official close to your area. If anybody looks at where in Northern and Central CA there is a lot of MV activity but a relatively small number of MVCCers and probably MVPAers, Sonoma County is the place. Not sure why, but isn't it worth finding out?

And the other thing about the split is that the growth area for events around here is not so much in Sonoma County where your other club operates, it is in Marin and San Francisco.

[MITYMITE99]

Section 3.10 Notice of Regular Elections: Notice of elections shall be by publication in the newsletter not less than (30) days prior to the election for all members in good standing at the time of the notice. Notice shall include the subject matter of the election.

Section 3.12 Officers of the MVCC shall be the President, Immediate Past President, Regional Vice Presidents ( number to be deter-mined by board resolution), Secretary/Treasurer and Newsletter Editor.

Section 3.14 Election of Officers: Each member in good standing on the date of balloting is entitled to one (1) vote for each officer position to be filled by membership vote in an election of officers. Elected officers are President, Regional Vice Presidents, (number to be decided by board resolution), Secretary/Treasurer and Newsletter Editor.
Copied from MVCC bylaws Printed in FEB 2011 Newsletter,

"Number to be decided by Broard Resolution" How could this be done without a broad Meeting?

[willy]

Section 3.10 Notice of Regular Elections: Notice of elections shall be by publication in the newsletter not less than (30) days prior to the election for all members in good standing at the time of the notice. Notice shall include the subject matter of the election.

Section 3.12 Officers of the MVCC shall be the President, Immediate Past President, Regional Vice Presidents ( number to be deter-mined by board resolution), Secretary/Treasurer and Newsletter Editor.

Section 3.14 Election of Officers: Each member in good standing on the date of balloting is entitled to one (1) vote for each officer position to be filled by membership vote in an election of officers. Elected officers are President, Regional Vice Presidents, (number to be decided by board resolution), Secretary/Treasurer and Newsletter Editor.
Copied from MVCC bylaws Printed in FEB 2011 Newsletter,

"Number to be decided by Broard Resolution" How could this be done without a broad Meeting?

Randy king sign your tread it would be stronger knowing it comes from you do not hide behind a alias
Put your energie in your new club MVAC


Willy

[MITYMITE99]

WILLY
Who is hiding I have used the some G name for years.
and did it need signing Its a copy of the MVCC bylaws it obvious some dont have a copy.
as to your commit I should " Put your energy in your new club MVAC" are you saying I should not concern with whats going on in the MVCC of which Im a member of? I belong to alot of clubs I pay dues same as you in the MVCC
does that not give me the right to commit on its affairs Same as you or any other MVCC member? or is there a special list I dont know about?

Randy King
MVAC,MVPA,PGR,MVCC.
JUST THE NAME A FEW...

[softskin_driver]

Section 3.10 Notice of Regular Elections: Notice of elections shall be by publication in the newsletter not less than (30) days prior to the election for all members in good standing at the time of the notice. Notice shall include the subject matter of the election.
Impossible due to circumstances outside the control of the MVCC board.

Section 3.12 Officers of the MVCC shall be the President, Immediate Past President, Regional Vice Presidents (number to be deter-mined by board resolution), Secretary/Treasurer and Newsletter Editor. Board resolution, done by written consent in lieu of a meeting.

Section 3.14 Election of Officers: Each member in good standing on the date of balloting is entitled to one (1) vote for each officer position to be filled by membership vote in an election of officers. Elected officers are President, Regional Vice Presidents, (number to be decided by board resolution), Secretary/Treasurer and Newsletter Editor.
Same answer/comment as 3.12 as its a repeated bylaw/article/statement.
Copied from MVCC bylaws Printed in FEB 2011 Newsletter,

"Number to be decided by Broard Resolution" How could this be done without a broad Meeting?

Ask Dave I am sure he will tell you how many different ways there are and what resolution means

[willy]

Randy,
I think Dave B. has given you the answer you wanted
Also if you look under your alias it states you joined on May 21 2011 and have 6 post that does not mean years of G uses
It means 1 month
Willy

[MITYMITE99]

Willy
Thats one you should ask Kurt and his buddy Jon who deleted my acct..and blocked my IP address as a spammer.

Rk

[softskin_driver]

Randy isn’t it true that you had two accounts and was using one to masquerade your true identity? There are several user that have been removed/banned for doing that and it is a common practice on most of the forums for that to be a rule violation subject to a trip to the penalty box or ejection.
I think cowboy Bob is another that masquerades for reasons other than to discuss our hobby in an open forum although Bobs is more dark humor and less malicious that most and like most masqueraders eventually like Bob everyone knows who the masquerader is. I understand some people feel they can’t say what they really feel without the concealment of their true identity. I have been a moderator on several forums and I don’t really have a problem with this form of concealment as long as it’s not used in a malicious manner.
Sometimes its fun to watch a masquerader squirm when caught by thier friends explaining comments made while they thought they were incognito and concealed, under an assumed name , trying to avoid discovery.
There are several ways to catch a masquerader the easiest is to ping there IP address the other is to watch the list of who is on the site logged into a forum as a user and send a PM to them and see if they change identities to get the PM. You can also watch the list near the bottom of the page and watch who is logging in and out when the masquerader is doing his disappear and reappear act. There are much more techie ways to find out who a user is.

[MITYMITE99]

lets see when I was cut off from posting I had yes two Ids Mitymite99 and o yes mvcc editor. masquerade my true identity
mitymite99 is also my email address I have had for o 10 years maybe more and well I think it was easy at the time who mvcc editor could be So I dont see any masquerading here and if someone has started a tread and someone else wants to ask a ? want does it matter whos asking does it mean your going to give a diffent reply?
So any how when was this Board resolution done that split the north Bay Im still dont see anyone giving a date and time
seems to be the biggest issue and the anwser should fairly easy...somebody wrote up the ballot so who told who to write ? There must be a paper trail somewhere.
Dave if you had the ballots printed someone must of told you this action was taking and when ?
Is it a big Secret....
R King

[softskin_driver]

So from your answer Randy I have a question are using more than one ID on the G503 now?
I did not print the Ballots so I cannot answer that question I could guess but that would do you no good in your ongoing witch hunt for someway to change the outcome of the elections if they do not go the way you would like. No answer on the first question is an answer by the way!

[mfrance]

"John Neuenburg wrote: June 8th
"This is for the newly created North Bay-West territory. The Board divided the North Bay area into two VP territories. This is 415 area code, and 707 to the west of the Sonoma/Napa County line and on up the coast."

Can some one on the Board answer where the invisible line is for the split area so we can see the scope of this? Also what makes Sunny's area a new section i see no articles or major events in his so called area? John you also state the San Francisco /Marin area is not being covered? I think the current V.P. canidate is lacking in getting involved with info. I welcome you as a great events P.R person, I welcome Rory as one who wants to Move this club forward. He shows at alot of events for display.
I think if their is a reconized split John should run against Sonny since i think that area is lacking in the info gap and V.P. role as an officer to get involved.
michael