1943 MB 209528 project "Louise"

If you have an unrestored WWII jeep, we would like to see pictures, and hear your comments. NO EBAY or COMMERCIAL SALES.
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Re: 1943? MB project

Post by D_Conrad » Tue May 24, 2016 5:31 pm

I remover the sheet metal from the inside of the drivers side. Only uncovered small spots of rust and some poorly done patches.
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Re: 1943? MB project

Post by D_Conrad » Tue May 24, 2016 5:35 pm

I was feeling motivated after removing the inner metal in a decent amount of time so I decided to tackle the added layer on the back. Honestly super bummed at the amount of rust I uncovered. It was very time consuming but I'm glad I am getting it done.
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Mon May 30, 2016 8:25 am

I removed more sheet metal today exposing more surface rust and rust holes. The body itself has numerous dents throughout. I've never done any sort of body work so I was wondering what your guys opinions are. What should I do once the remainder of the sheet metal is removed? I will start on the drivers side once I'm done with the back.
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by Ralph » Mon May 30, 2016 12:49 pm

Conrad,you may as well pull the rest of it off to see where you stand.Having no experience,you should try to find someone who knows some sheet metal methods,preferably jeep sheet metal...to at least advise if not help you.You'll need to know which parts can be saved,etc,before you get out the hammer & dolly.
Keep posting your pics also,this forum can help.There have been rougher bodies fixed.You are about to learn some new skills-like most of us have...
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by htc » Mon May 30, 2016 2:19 pm

Hello Conrad,
I am pretty new into this also but in the meantime I have restored two tubs.
I have used plain sheet metal 18gauge (1,25 mm) thickness for easy to replace parts (flat and easy forms) that were rusted away.
For more difficult forms I did buy repro replacement sections. I did learn to weld ...
If I were you I would replace your rear with a repro rear section. There is too much wrong with what I see on the picture. If you cut out the rusted parts you are left with nothing :-)
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PS Show us the pictures of the others sections of your tub I and people will tell you to repair or to replace.
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Mon May 30, 2016 4:32 pm

Thank k you both for your input I really appreciate it. I will post photos of the sides when I remove Bubba's siding. My dad is a very experienced welder and has already expressed plans of cutting and replacing panels. He wants to keep as much of it original as possible.
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by htc » Tue May 31, 2016 12:20 am

D_Conrad wrote: My dad is a very experienced welder and has already expressed plans of cutting and replacing panels. He wants to keep as much of it original as possible.

I hope your dad has a lot of time :D
You should take some welding lessons yourself. It is a lot of fun.
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Tue May 31, 2016 5:57 pm

So I took a break from removing sheet metal and did a few other minor things today. Removed the grim from the windshield frame and removed the heater. Are the heaters worth anything? Or is it scrap? Also put the headlights in so they aren't just hanging. Reinstalled the air filter as well. I plan on cleaning it out but want to do my research first so I don't screw it up haha.i was also curious how the radiator hoses are originally routed so I can get that done not that the heater is removed.
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:07 am

htc wrote:
D_Conrad wrote: My dad is a very experienced welder and has already expressed plans of cutting and replacing panels. He wants to keep as much of it original as possible.

I hope your dad has a lot of time :D
You should take some welding lessons yourself. It is a lot of fun.
Good luck.

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I have been wanting to do that for a while now, I just haven't had the time. but I should do it soon so I can do more with the jeep!
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by twinflyer17 » Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:22 am

D_Conrad wrote:
htc wrote:
D_Conrad wrote: My dad is a very experienced welder and has already expressed plans of cutting and replacing panels. He wants to keep as much of it original as possible.

I hope your dad has a lot of time :D
You should take some welding lessons yourself. It is a lot of fun.
Good luck.

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I have been wanting to do that for a while now, I just haven't had the time. but I should do it soon so I can do more with the jeep!
The best way to learn to weld: grab scrap metal in all different shapes and sizes and run a million beads. For each bead you run, you'll begin to learn the best settings on the welder, and the best technique for ensuring it's a strong and reliable weld. I was lucky and spent a summer welding aluminum livestock semi-trailers. Getting hired with zero experience, I was "taught" by spending hours practicing on scraps, then being thrown onto the line to do it for real. Another important point, even if your weld looks like crap, or you blow a hole through the metal, 99 out of 100 times, it can be ground down and done over again 8)

I do agree with htc, though. Welding is a lot of fun!
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:09 am

Made some progress. Got a set of 4 original combat rims, cats eye marker lights and a broken but correct steering wheel. I replaced the right fender but for some reason it will not line up with the grille once bolted to the frame. Is my frame bent? Also I'm nor sure what it is or if it's meant to be there but there is something that sits behind the air filter that is preventing it from fitting correctly. Ideas?
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:12 pm

Here is the best photo I have at the moment of the fender. It's sitting too low. I also got an original hood. It's off a GPW but still better than the Cj hood I had before.
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:13 pm

Assembled more of the engine. Got a correct oil filter and I got the air filter installed. Half way saved for a new floor because the one it has now was done very poorly and the gas petal can not be mounted. Thank Bubba. Once the floor is installed I will begin engine work to get it running. Once it cools down a little I will continue removing the sheet metal surrounding the tub. Hope the frame will not be disappointing once the tub is removed to replace the floor. Fingers crossed! Theres also a gap between the bottom of the hood and the top of the fender. I have seen photos of there being no gap and others with a similar gap. Is there a correct or incorrect fitting or does it just vary? Lastly the combat rims I got came with the one in the pictures. Is this a military wheel or is it from a Cj?
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:04 pm

Due to work and life in general I sadly haven't been able to work on the jeep much. I did get a chance to reproduce the nomenclature plate. Pretty bummed I double stamped the "5" but it will have to do until I can get a new one.
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Re: 1943 MB 209528 project

Post by D_Conrad » Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:11 pm

Does anybody have techniques on how I can weather it to match the two I have? Thanks!
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