Drivers Seat Fuel Tank Guard and screws.

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Drivers Seat Fuel Tank Guard and screws.

Post by m3bobby » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:12 am

I'm just restoring my early small filler hole drivers seat and I now have a new JMP long and short guard available to fit. Should I fit the short guard as that is what was originally fitted or go for the long one? I'm inclined to go with short despite common opinion. Having talked to a few people there is some who believe the short is correct for a VEP.

Also, should I use the 3 round head screws and washers or 3 F script bolts?

Any opinions/thoughts?
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Post by gpwmke » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:21 am

I'm using round head screws. Best wishes; Leo

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Post by jeepfinger » Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:17 pm

m3bobby wrote:
Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:12 am
should I use the 3 round head screws and washers or 3 F script bolts?
According to Claudes list, 3 Hex bolts with plain washers, no F. I had a look in the Ford Parts List March 1942, and couldn't find any listed :?

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Post by m3bobby » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:40 am

Thanks gents, I really don't know what to use, it really probably doesn't matter as it's an easy fix either way if I'm wrong. Hex bolts would be easier but the screws appear to be correct for a VEP but no hard and fast proof.

Any thoughts on which shield to use. The badly bent and chewed up original shield/guard is the short type and appears to be original to the F marked seat. I've read many times that Ford only made the seat with the long shield however there are more and more early seats turning up with the short shield.

Dave, I don't suppose the March 42 parts list is available on line? I've got the April version but the March version is more appropriate for my jeep.

Thanks again gents.
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Post by jeepfinger » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:46 am

m3bobby wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:40 am
I don't suppose the March 42 parts list is available on line? I've got the April version but the March version is more appropriate for my jeep.
I don't know about that, I know that Jon has the April 42 on Jeepdraw to download, I guess that is where you got yours? My March 42 TM10 1348, like you say is more for you, but i'm sure that they have missed things out. In the April one, Body page 72/73 Floor it lists the 3 bolts, washers nuts and cage retainers. In the March one, the parts list is the same, apart from the 4 items :? My March TM is not original, it's a photocopy that a friend did for me over 30 years ago.

The shield, not too sure, I have heard that the wood spacer was never used on the GPW.
m3bobby wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:40 am
I've read many times that Ford only made the seat with the long shield however there are more and more early seats turning up with the short shield.
I don't know what you mean by an Early Ford seat, I know about the early split back MB ones. I know that your GPW is a very early, and quite a differant
animal :D to mine, you are a lucky guy :D :mrgreen:

Hope that this may have helped you.

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Post by jeepfinger » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:21 am

jeepfinger wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:46 am
I don't know what you mean by an Early Ford seat,
What an idiot :oops: I guess that you mean small vs large gas tank holes?

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Post by m3bobby » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:15 am

Yes that's it Dave, it's the small mouth seat with the short shield. The shield looks to be original to the seat but as You say, the belief is that Ford never used the short shield and wood block and that they used the long shield from start to finish. Thanks for your input.
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Post by gpwmke » Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:26 am

I have an original small mouth gas tank seat on my early Oct. 42 GPW. I have to use the wood spacer to make it fit over the gas tank on my GPW. To the best of my knowledge the small mouth gas tank and seat are original to the jeep. Best wishes; Leo

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Post by m3bobby » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:10 am

Thanks Leo, I hope some other members come forward with what they have.
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Post by jeepfinger » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:03 pm

m3bobby wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:15 am
Thanks for your input.

No problem, but I don't know if I told you anything that you already knew :roll: I hope more members chime in.

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Post by Michael O. » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:44 pm

I have a few GPW “F” small mouth seat pan driver’s seats...I’ll dig them out and post my findings here over the weekend.
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Post by m3bobby » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:14 am

Thanks Michael, that would be great.
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Post by Klaas » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:12 am

Perhaps a bit late, but here are my findings.
GPW 17331 has its original seat with small gas tank opening in the seat base.
Alle mounting holes line up perfectly and there was no wooden filler used below the shield. Fitted with hex head bolts.
Mind you, the seat is very low over the present tank with little room to spare, but that can probably be attributed to the repro small mouth tank which may be sitting higher than the original.
When I got my vehicle it had a later (large mouth) tank fitted and the seat base was cut wider for the filler.
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