VEP Battery Ground Location

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VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by An Old BC » Sun Oct 01, 2017 9:21 pm

Still working on GPW 4661 (going on 15 years!). At least I'm putting it back together.
Need some help on the location of where the Negative Battery Cable was attached to the body.
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This is one location on the front of the battery tray.
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This is the right radiator grounding stud.
Can anyone help me

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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by An Old BC » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:44 pm

Hopefully someone with a VEP on a Willys frame can help me. My understanding is Ford on their later frames used the front cross member as a grounding point. And that Willys used the hole in the front of the battery tray. Did Ford use the Willy's location or the later cross member site?

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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by m3bobby » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:40 am

I'm also in the same boat, I have one of the "long" long olive drab line reproductions correct for VEP GPW so I assume it installs to the front cross member.
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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by Michael O. » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:01 am

You battery ground cable should mount to the front cross member
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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by Ian Fawbert » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:05 pm

Michael O. wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:01 am
You battery ground cable should mount to the front cross member
Mike, can you expand on this please? Where on the front cross member should it mount for a Willys frame?

I only ask, as the photo Tim has shown above is showing one of the studs for the radiator to cross member bond straps, and I wouldnt have thought it shared a mounting point?


Tim, on a side note- if you do mount it to the batter tray,I suggest before going much further you tin/solder the metal around the mounting point as it would have originally (if mounted on the battery tray) have been. This will help no end on your grounding, especially for 6volt.

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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by An Old BC » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:17 pm

Thanks Ian.
I think I have a lot of 'tinning' to do before I start mounting the grounding straps. I have been reading up on it in past posts on the G.
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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by An Old BC » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:41 pm

So Michael O, Are you saying the ground cable should be doubled up with the right radiator ground strap? I don't see any other studs on the cross member

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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by m3bobby » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:40 pm

I've got two studs on my cross member. I asked about this a few months ago. I'll go see what the answer was.
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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by Michael O. » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:40 am

My apologies....when I first read this thread on my cell phone screen I though you had GPW 14661. I didn't see the photos either. Now I realize that you have GPW 4661 on a Midland frame... :oops: ...my mistake!

I haven't gone through the disassembly of GPW 2647 yet and I can't get underneath it now to check.....but if it's like the Slat MB's shouldn't the ground cable mount to the inside frame rail underneath the battery tray?
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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by m3bobby » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:24 pm

I do have a clinch type nut in that position that I didn't know what it was for. Very rusty and obviously not used in years so a good possibility or it may mean that Ford chose somewhere else to mount the cable and that nut was left to rust with no use.
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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by An Old BC » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:07 pm

Michael:

I'll check my inner from under the battery tray for the nut.
Seems like with so many VEP GPWs out there that someone would have a negative cable still in place :shock:

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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by An Old BC » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:44 pm

Michael O:
I looked at the inner frame rail on my frame. Found three hole total but no captured nut. Is this what you were talking about. As far as comparing where Ford attached their negative battery cable to the Midland frame, do you feel they followed Willy's or did their own (Ford) thing?
3mbobby: Is this where your clinch type nut was located??

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Re: VEP Battery Ground Location

Post by m3bobby » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:45 pm

Here it is, I've been looking at other photos of Midland frame Batt trays and I've a feeling my frame may be an early frame. The 2 part tray frame has the same threaded insert as my one piece tray frame. Others don't have this it would appear.
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