MA 450S Carter Carb

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Re: MA 450S Carter Carb

Post by Scoutpilot » Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:14 pm

Your own form lends incredulity to your statement. Read it once again very carefully.
'70-'71 'A' Batt., 377th FA, 101AB
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Re: MA 450S Carter Carb

Post by wo2jeeper » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:24 am

Scoutpilot wrote:Your own form lends incredulity to your statement. Read it once again very carefully.
That the ribbed horn not is an MA thing ?


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Re: MA 450S Carter Carb

Post by Scoutpilot » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:25 am

SUPERSEDED; Verb; replace, take the place of, take over from, succeed; supplant, displace, oust, overthrow, remove, unseat. “The WO450S, with the ribbed top, was superseded by the WO450SA, with the smooth top.”
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(Slicks and LOH's)(Col's LOH Pilot)
'71-72 CHARLIE TROOP,
16TH AIR CAV, 1ST AVN BDE (AEROSCOUTS)
LOW LEVEL HELL.
'46 CJ2A
'47 CJ2A
'48 CJ2A
'48 B1PW126
'69 CJ5

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Re: MA 450S Carter Carb

Post by soccergorilla » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:03 am

It would seem to me the best evidence is the most original unrestored MA's found had the ribbed version. I would discount photos in documentation because even the MA shop manual has several errors in it. I bet the americar and MA used the ribbed version which is why more of them are found. The Carter documentation in my opinion is greatly outweighed by real work evidence to the contrary. Sean.

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Re: MA 450S Carter Carb

Post by Chuck Lutz » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:39 am

When one gets involved with manuals you must remember that they are not always updated with regard to the photos they used. The best example of that is the continued use of MA manual photos in not only the early MB manuals but even in the early GPW manuals. In reality, the parts in question changed but the photos did not. While a VEP MB or GPW might have placed the T/C lever springs BETWEEN the levers, as soon as the change to the FATTER style very early in 1942 took place, the photo in the manuals did not. Consequently we STILL have guys trying to sell us on the opinion that ALL WWII jeeps had the anti rattle springs between the T/C levers during WWII.

Secondly, if a Carter Service bulleting is dated 1941 then it is much more believable than one with a 1941 and 1945 or 1953 Revision date on it.

Thirdly, those Ford and Willys Master Parts books give you parts that are available as REPLACEMENTS as of the date of the manual, they do not necessarily give you the part that was originally used on the factory line the day the jeep was produced.

I don't have an MA so the argument is moot here....but I do think it important to use the correct documentation and interpret it correctly.
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