Is this a USMC jeep?

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Postby ironage » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:12 pm

That O and T are very faint but I can just see the edges![img][img]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w42/ironagedesigns/P5160025.jpg[/img][/img]
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Postby ironage » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:13 pm

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Postby blackdog » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:11 pm

The fact that it's from California, is painted USMC green, has yellow markings, and has the O and T just makes it too much of a coincidence to make it NOT a Camp Pendleton jeep....

I take it you haven't found any unit markings yet? :(

As for period photos of Camp Pendleton (and it's vehicles), I don't think that History & Museums has a very good archive of photos, and if you were to find any photos of any jeeps on Camp Pendleton I'd say you'd probably have more luck at the National Archives or History & Museums HQ in Quantico...

The only pictures I have are blurry screen-caps of a movie detailing the history of Camp Pendleton...
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Postby blackdog » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:17 pm

Mark Tombleson wrote:That is a very cool decal, Brian.

So, the yellow circle... and T, I wonder what the globe and anchor decal looked like back then and also wonder if it was inverted like the OFFICIAL ones I have photos of.

Did we ever do anything on that decal?


I'm not quite sure if they had the EGA inside the O and T back then...

Never did get anywhere on that decal but if you would like me to redraw it I can try to do so.

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Postby blackdog » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:17 pm

Mike W. wrote:
blackdog wrote:It's from Camp Pendleton if it looks anything like this.


Was that a base sticker for all the military vehicles assigned there of any kind or only Marine ones?


It's the first time I've seen it on any vehicle...

I'd say it's possible that it belonged to the base (to a function similar to base motors or something) and not one of the units on the base... and that could have just been an easy way of ID'ing them... and this would have also meant that the vehicle would have not gone island hopping...
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Postby ironage » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:38 pm

Hi, I,ve found no unit markings as of yet, it does have the other number on the drivers side just behind front wing56585 ,what does that mean? The O and T symbol on the back hasn,t gopt anything inside the O ie the USMC badge its just a stencil. I think theres something on the passenger side front, I,ll keep looking.

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Postby Mark Tombleson » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:38 am

While you are looking pull that license plate off and sand down the windshield skin to see if the base put any markings there. :idea:
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Postby ironage » Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:35 am

I,ll have a look today,
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Postby The Fireman » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:17 am

To all,

The circular marking is also the TAC mark for the 6 th Mar Div. But being new to this thread, is the jeep a Willys or Ford, has it been rebuilt, that is the body/frame switch. Also you have two different "numbers" one done like the Navy would do and the other like the USMC might do. As Mark T inquired about, more information and careful work uncovering what ever else might lie under the paint is needed. The only insight/advise I could share, is that you just never know. The windshield panel on my 43 GPW USMC ambjeep, revealed hand painted lettering in red. The lettering was not cookie cutter type, just some poor jarhead painted the letters with a brush on the panel. This was uncovered at the recent TP meet, by a whole passel of "G" sanding fools.

Good luck with your project,

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Postby ironage » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:29 am

Hi, Its a GPW Body but a MB style frame, the layers of paint on the body seem to be the same as the layers on the frame, the number on the side by the front wing is also in yellow 56585, the marine green paint is over the top of the yellow numbers then over the top of that a battleship grey colour, also on the dash theres a hole with the word siren painted on in yellow, Thanks

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Postby Mark Tombleson » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:31 pm

That really is not in the right place for a tac mark, Frank and you well know most of the time there are unpainted slots where the interior of the stencil attaches to the outside of the stencil for the tac marks.

That does bring up the issue of the bumperettes and front bumper... those need to be sanded; also along with the front grill just below the blackout lights, the sides of the jeep above the wheel wells, where the shovel head would be located and the same spot on the passengers side, finally above and below the side grab bars.
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Postby ironage » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:07 am

Hi, the Bumpers are missing, but I,ll check out those other locations today, there was nothing on windscreen.

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Postby ironage » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:24 am

Hi, Today I seperated the Body Tub from the frame and guess what the underneath of the tub is all Blue over Olive drab, even under where the gun mount bolts, the chassis and top of the gun mount also has traces of Blue, was it in the Navy as well, the Marine colours and stenci!lling come after the blue it looks like the frame and Tub were painted blue as seperate units. was this normal practise ,would it be done in the factory, also its registered as a willys jeep, has a willys style frame but the body seems Ford but Ican,t find a single bolt on it marked with an F. The american registration on it gives a number of 6P22300 which I don,t understand, so far I,ve found no numbers stamped on it. Help!!!

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Postby ironage » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:36 am

Heres pictures of that blue paint[img][img]http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w42/ironagedesigns/P5180020.jpg[/img]ImageImage[/img]
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Postby Jamie M » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:12 pm

Sounds like someone may have replaced the original tub with that one. The blue paint is probably a civy thing done for what ever reason.

Does it have a frame tag on what is left of the frame rail?
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