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Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby F. R. Fox » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:52 pm

I just remade my passenger seat covers. The shelter half canvas doesn't hold up and becomes thin and tears after a year. So I remade my crash pads and back rest, and all came out excellent except for the passenger seat bottom....... I screwed up and made it sideways and I'm about to my last few yards of NOS canvas, and at my wits end! :( Making seat covers is a chore!

I see everyone sells foam filled seats but does anyone make canvas covers for spring seats? I need covers for my rear seat cushions soon!
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby nick peters » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:40 am

Hey Farrell
Try www.newlifecanvas.com. They advertize cusion covers with the wire sown into the edges for spring set ups. I cannot comment on the quality of their products. As ive not purchased or seen any items from them :roll: But im sure someone on here will tell you :)
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby F. R. Fox » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:00 am

Hi Nick,

I sent them an email and am gonna see if they have any in stock. My friend said he ordered me a canvas top from them for Christmas, but I never got it. So either he's a lying bastard or they lost the order, but we will see. :wink:
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby nick peters » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:35 pm

Hey Farrell
What can i say :roll: Just hope they lost the order ,and they prove to be an honourable setup :roll:
good luck.
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby F. R. Fox » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:10 am

Nick,

I mean that whole heartedly! He can be a lying bastard sometimes, so I wouldn't put them down just yet!
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby Ben Dover » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:24 am

I have a repro set with the enclosed wire and cannot be more satisfied, there is a lot of precise labor involved to get them "just right", the fit is perfection. Correct O.D. Canvas seat cover material, too. It was well worth the wait.
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby F. R. Fox » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:49 am

The covers are actually not that difficult to make, (thats if you don't forget which peices were what and make them sideways :roll: ) but they are time consuming. The hardest part is sewing in the wire frame and getting the machine to round the corners.

You just have to have the canvas to do it, of which I am running low on :( But I am getting lazy and will want a new set when this one wears out. Not to mention My MZ will need a set as well :roll:
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby dpcd67 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:46 am

Beachwood says they make covers for ww2 jeep spring seats; saw it in the video.
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby jeep-a-holic » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:04 am

Farrell,
How were these attached to the seat? is it similar to the standard way? I came across the springs, I think I have them all, but I'm not sure if mine used them.

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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby F. R. Fox » Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:42 am

Sean,

The edges attach directly to the seat frame using the screws and washers. The covers house the springs and hugs them tight against the seat frame. I add my own touch by placing a sheet of canvas between the springs and seat pans. This eliminates the anoying squeaking of the metal to metal contact. Makes for a quiet jeep ride.
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby jeep-a-holic » Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:02 am

Oh ok, I see. Thanks for the info! I need to get working on mind then.

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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby nick peters » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:22 pm

Sean
Farrell forgot to tell you that the covers are held in place over the springs with narrow metal strips(i dont have the width and length available right now) but if no one else posts( Chuck?)with the info Pm me in a couple of weeks ,when im back home . I can let you have measurements then :)
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby Chuck Lutz » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:31 pm

The fat round wire that is sewn into the perimeter of the canvas can be seen in this pic:
Type IV or Type V Bottom view.jpg
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The flat steel bandings that helps keep the shape of the perimeter wire and hold the canvas can be seen in this pic from Mark's MZ Radio jeep:
MB MZ Rear Seat Mark T..jpg
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John Bizal's passenger seat:
Bizal Pass Seat S Spring.jpg
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Atlas Royersford and Universal are two of the mfgers and there may be more who supplied Ford & Willys....

The steel banding is about 1/4" wide and almost 1/8" thick I believe....I don't have any "S" types here to check for you at the moment.

PS...note that the construction of the #1 pic is different from the #2 and #3.....I think #1 is perhaps Ford and the other two Willys, but nothing definitive to confirm that.

.....then we have the COIL type springs to try to fit into the scheme of things!
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby F. R. Fox » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:14 pm

Nick is right, I forgot to mention the wire frames and metal retaining strips. Both are easily fabricated if needed. I am going to purchase new seat covers instead of making them.

My suggestion to anyone who wants to make thier own seats is to use Mildew and Water Treated canvas. If left untreated, my experience is they will dry rot or become brittle from direct sunlight. Shelter half canvas is also not siutable as the thin canvas frays and rips from normal use, especially around corners or edges.
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Re: Anyone make seat covers for spring seats???

Postby Ben Dover » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:47 pm

I have a set of the late MB covers complete with the sewn in wire frames and replacement banding from New Life Canvas about a month ago. They are the same as on my originals and John Bizals and absolute perfection. The Canvas is the GI spec material as used for seats. If your original spring type cushions are suitable for recovering, this is the way to go. The quality and workmanship are perfection and the fit of the covers for both the seat back and bottoms are exact.
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