Early Bell Housing

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Post by Todd Paisley » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:08 pm

I have noticed on some of the early MB that they used a mold that appears to be a patched passenger car mold. Does anyone else have one like this? The one I have is dated 11-14.

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I would love to know how long they used this mold. If you have one, can you post the casting date? Thanks.
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Post by Larry Loyd » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:04 am

Hi Todd,

The bell housing on my slat 101948 is exactly like yours with the "patch".
If I remember right the casting date was 11 41. Most all dated parts on mine are in Nov 41 being a DOD of 12-4-41

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Post by Todd Paisley » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:59 am

Hi Larry. Do you have your bell housing loose or is it on the jeep right now? I was wondering if you could take some close-ups of the patch. I want to see if it looks like it has the same mold as the one I have. Also, yours may have been 11-14 as well. They typically used month and day. So I don't think the "41" is correct.
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1941 MB - 100063 - X12? - Willys Factory Test Mule
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Post by iowa » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:52 am

todd
i have a T90 in my slat
but the bell housing
might be original
i'll check it out for you also
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Post by GI jeeps » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:27 am

I've got one dated 3-23 so they must have made it through the end of the slatgrill run and beyond.
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Re: Early Bellhousing

Post by Chris Fourroux » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:01 pm

GI jeeps wrote:I've got one dated 3-23 so they must have made it through the end of the slatgrill run and beyond.
But that could mean it was cast 3-23-41 instead.

I never noticed this little detail before. turns out mine looks like that.
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Post by Todd Paisley » Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:51 pm

Thanks Chris. It looks like yours had the same mold. Notice the 2 "bumps" that look like screw heads ground down in the mold (the lower one is more pronounced).
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1941 MB - 100063 - X12? - Willys Factory Test Mule
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1944 CJ2-12 - X36
1944 CJ2-16 - X40
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Post by Larry Loyd » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:48 am

Hi Todd,

My bell housing is already installed so I can't get a picture. I am relying on my memory on the casting date. It probably was 11-14 instead of 11-41.
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Post by rustfarm » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:16 pm

I an in need of a slat grill bell housing.
I can ether purchase the bell or trade for a early ford bell housing that I have for trade
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Post by Noah M » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:54 pm

any ideas on what they used for the patch on the molds? its interesting to note the texture on the inside of todd's bell, almost looks like a bondo patch that someone didnt spend much time on.

Chris, does yours have the same strange looking patch job on the inside? what could they have used to patch the molds that would handle the temperature and yet look like that? :?:
the more i look at it, it looks like maybe spot welds..you see the lumps on the top of the patch in todd's photo..also on the left side
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Post by Todd Paisley » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:47 pm

I don't think the mold would have any heat. It would just have to be pressed into sand. The spots look like ground down screw heads, not spot welds.
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Post by Noah M » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:49 pm

todd, not the outside..the inside...so if it didnt need to be heat resistant, than it could very well have been bondo or the equivilent eh?
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Post by Todd Paisley » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:52 pm

Hmmm. I don't see spot welds on the inside. But inside or outside, the thing that is making the mold casting doesn't take any heat.
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1941 MB - 100063 - X12? - Willys Factory Test Mule
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1944 CJ2-12 - X36
1944 CJ2-16 - X40
1945 CJ2-37 - X61
1945 CJ2A-10012

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Post by Noah M » Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:56 pm

hmm..it seems like i see them but i wont make an issue out of it...so the molds were not used in the foundry process like they way we use fiberglass molds, i was not aware of that, ok..back to the topic! :lol:
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Post by Todd Paisley » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:19 pm

Not sure I understand. Here is an article on how the Wilson Foundry made castings. It was written a few years before the jeep, but the same concept applies.

http://www.willys-overland.com/wilson_foundry/
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1941 MB - 100063 - X12? - Willys Factory Test Mule
1942 MB - 123136 - Earliest Documented "Civilian" Test Jeep
1944 CJ2-12 - X36
1944 CJ2-16 - X40
1945 CJ2-37 - X61
1945 CJ2A-10012

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