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slat headlight brackets

Post by gpw1944 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:06 am

Does any one have a original grill with the headlight mounting bolts intact, I am try to figure if the bolts to mount the headlight bracket come up and are attached with the nut and washer on the top of the grill, I have seen both?
Also I have a original slat grill rear seat and there are no drain holes in the indents for the strengthening of the bottom seat section, yet standard seats have the drain holes? Thanks Nick
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Post by Mark Jesic » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:51 am

Nick, on my slattie, the rear lower seat has one drain hole by the curve on each side, there are no holes on the indents.

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Post by Michael O. » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:37 am

The nuts should be facing up. My Jan ‘42 MB also had four TR/20 bolts (two on each arm) in this location.
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Post by ajlang » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:17 am

All the slats I have come across have been bolt head up. Anybody have a larger version of this image?
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Post by ajlang » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:37 am

For what its worth, here a a few pictures I have collected over the years of a couple of slats.
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Post by gpw1944 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:18 am

Thank you guys for your replies, another question for slat owners, the rear panel footman loops for the top canvas do the two loops on each corner have the backing plate? Regards Nick
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Post by Mark Jesic » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:26 am

No they dont Nick. :D

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Post by Michael O. » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:54 pm

So the accepted standard is bolt heads up on the headlight arms? Mine must have been switched at some point then.
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Post by Joe Gopan » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:15 pm

Makes more sense to have the bolt head on top so as not to interfere with the use of the headlamps to illuminate the engine compartment.
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Post by ajlang » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:18 pm

Michael O. wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:54 pm
So the accepted standard is bolt heads up on the headlight arms? Mine must have been switched at some point then.
Hi Michael ... I think so. However, on GPWs isn't it the opposite?
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Post by Michael O. » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:24 pm

Yes, on GPW's the bolt heads face down.

I thought the TR/20's on my Slat Grill's headlight arms were positioned facing down but it's been a while since I removed the so maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:59 am

Lloyd White's Book on the GPW Jeep has photos on Pages 115, 239, 247 that give a hint of the Head Light hinge bolt orientation, it is contrary to what I thought. There are many other photos from WWII of Jeeps that also give a hint of the hinge being under or over the grill.
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Re: slat headlight brackets

Post by DavidA » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:26 pm

After having rebuilt four of these grills myself and removing the headlight hinge remains, I never really paid a whole lot of attention however it was my impression from previous discussions that the bolts were upside down in the Ford and that the early MB ones were right side up.

So I asked Ernie Ongaro to look at his unmolested original 12.31.41 grill to see what position those bolts were in and he provided me with this.

Also is the one I spotted at a friends place in Germany. His was located so that the bolt heads were opposite and the outer one didn't bump the hood. I vaguely remember disassembling an original one that was done that way too. :?
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