Original Slat Grill Speedometer prices tanking?

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Original Slat Grill Speedometer prices tanking?

Post by Michael O. » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:13 pm

I guess the introduction of the new reproduction Autolite speedometers has caused the market to drop out of original restored Autolite speedometers. Not long ago a guy could spend $1500 on a restored speedometer. A very nicely restored Autolite (done by the same guy who restored mine) just just sold on ePay for $790.00!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Jeep-Willy ... 1438.l2649
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Post by chasendeer » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:14 pm

Wow!! Knowing what he paid for the core, he did not brake even!!
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Post by Michael O. » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:40 pm

No kidding! There's a core up currently for $750....then add $395 for the restoration work.
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Post by David » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:57 am

It was bound to happen, if you combine outright silly prices for original parts with good quality reproductions becoming available...

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Post by Farrell Fox » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:20 am

I bought a repro JMP slat speedo for my buddy's slat grill Jeep. Everything is spot on, it works great, and the price was very reasonable. After he received it he lost all interest in finding an original.
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Post by David » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:06 am

That's the repro I was referring to :lol:

JMP does have an original, unrestored slat speedo on eBay now.

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Post by Mark » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:14 pm

The price is reasonable when compared to an original but is not reasonable considering that it is more than double the price of the other 4 versions of repro speedometers also being produced now by JMP. Considering the only differences are probably just the face graphics and needle, that's a big premium for the slat grill version...

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Post by soccergorilla » Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:21 pm

Not sure I would call the prices silly. There is still a free market at play here.....low supply ....big demand. The new repros are great but given the choice I would pay much more for an original, after all I think building a very original jeep is what we strive for. I would run a repro until I found an original or in a slat that was a fun driver. Another angle is the originals have that patina and I like seeing restored jeeps with old off white gauges. Original data plates and original fully functional, not over restored gauges let you know the vehicle is truly old. If the prices of originals really come down quite a bit then good news. I will buy them for a little less. The originals are not just "parts". They are genuine equipment from 75 years ago from the greatest military the world has ever known.

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Post by ajlang » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:58 am

My guess is JMP is producing a lot less slat speedos than the others. The cost over the other 4 is to recover tooling and design costs. Still a great deal IMHO.

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Post by David » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:18 am

I will go for original parts too if possible, and pay more than what a repro goes for. But $180 or $1500 is too big of a difference to ignore. I guess I'm lucky with the original airfilter and dataplates I have, although I keep the original plates safely at home and have repro's in the jeep. That's thanks to the silly prices they do, and the fact they're only fixed with a few (original) screws. :lol:

The repro slat speedo on its own is a good deal but expensive compared to their other repro speedos indeed. However, I think in this case you have to compare the repro to the original part to judge if the price is reasonable, and not to other different, repro parts?

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Post by Chuck Lutz » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:29 am

Given that each of the original WWII speedos (Autolite, K-S, SW, Motometer, Waltham) have unique features and that there are differences between the Slat Grill Autolite and Motometer....one might want to know if the JMP speedos are following all those different mfg characteristics or just changing the needles and the face printing? I don't know myself, but those who have pics of them might post the front, side and rear pics for us to see.

As posted above, some guys don't WANT a repop and some guys are OK with it if 99.9% of the people can't tell the difference. The rest just care what the FACE looks like and would not bother with the guts or the case or the bracket.

Repops are not CLONES....they are close but not exact and that right there is the dividing line; how close will separate the buyers into those three groups.

Bottom line is; how CLOSE is the JMP Slat Grill Autolite speedo for instance? Got pics?
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Re: Original Slat Grill Speedometer prices tanking?

Post by David » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:03 am

Good point Chuck, I don't have enough knowledge of gauges for that. I don't have one of the JMP repros myself but here it is:

https://www.joesmotorpool.com/home/229- ... peedometer

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Post by Chuck Lutz » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:10 am

I can't see enough details myself but it should have a dished face.... and the face screws at about the 5 and 9 o'clock positions which it seems to have, but the Philips screws on the back are in the wrong position for a Slatgrill Type I Autolite speedo...

Up to the buyers to weigh the originality and the price and availability for themselves.
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Re: Original Slat Grill Speedometer prices tanking?

Post by Farrell Fox » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:49 pm

My own observations are that the only noticeable differences I can find on the face are that the numbers 4, 5, and 6 are ever so slightly different. Otherwise the face is a great copy. Granted the obvious differences on the back are the wrong orientation of the screws, and the screws themselves which are Phillips heads. However I personally don't care how the rear screws are oriented since they will not be seen from behind the dash. One might swap them out for slotted screws, but again, they'll never be seen once the unit is installed. If anything these subtle details would help prevent them from being passed off as original units.

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