What a rolled humvee looks like!

[Brian Wang]

http://biofuelcrusader.tumblr.com/page/3

So! Driving accros country from cali to fl, some girl spun out on i40 in arizona, and hit me, sending my trailer out ofncontrol, and me into the median. Next thing i know im upside down hanging from my seatbelt.

What can i do? After getting righted, remounted 2 tires that had come off the bead, and reconnected the battery, just paid my tow bill and kept on truckin. Ive just reached oklahoma now. I plan a visit in missouri, probably a visit to kascar in south carolina for them to estimate a quote on e damage for allstate, and then down to fl.

You can see the rest of the pictures before and after wrecking here. http://www.biofuelcrusader.tumblr.com

Between oklahoma and florida, do you guys know of where i can find parts for repair?

Brian.

Oh and Greg, i had just installed that antenna only a few hours before crashing. Cry! Brand new antenna, mount, and bracket. Destroyed.

[dilvoy]

WOW! Thank goodness you walked away from that. Good thing you were wearing your seat belt. Making it out of a wreck unhurt is the most important thing and the property damage is a distant second. Too bad though, as your humvee looked like it was set up nicely.
I've been in two rollovers on the highway and walked away without injury both times, except for glass slivers both, but I wear my seat belt even going to park my vehicle around the corner from my house. I've had to gather my belongings that flew out too so I know how you feel. I had some dealings with other peoples insurnace companies when they wanted to total my car out. Your own insurance co can do that, but theirs can't. Don't let then tell you so either. You have to assess the damages and have them pay you the price to fix it. Don't let them put a salvage on the title of the Humvee, because it may affect it's value. Even without that, you will have diminished value because of the repairs needed so make shure they pay you money equal to the diminished value of your humvee. You can PM me if you want too about this, but it does look like your frame will not be damaged. Just the body and parts can be replaced on it if it's not too bad. Their adjustor will take one look at your humvee and be totally lost, which may work to your benefit. Don't forget that you need a like kind and quality of vehicle as a replacement and the same to drive in until they settle the case. They will try and drag it on for a long time, but if they have an on going expense of a heavy duty 4x4 vehicle rental they will want to get things done sooner than later. Again, thank goodness that you are OK!

[STUDENT-DRIVER]

Brain you‘re a tuff guy that you keep drivng

[AMTAK]

What do you need and where do we send it? I am sure we can keep you trucking. If you were closer I could put a yank on that frame.

[Kurt Lesser]

I already know what rolled Humvee looks like! Did mine at Hollister Hills ORP.

LOL (sadly)

Kurt

[Brian Wang]

Thanks guys. Im in oklahoma now, broke down at a rest stop, cant get it to start. Ill say, i set out for an adventure and a challenge, and im definitely getting my moneys worth.

I unhitched my brothers car to go to town looking for a way to replace my fuel filter. Im pretty sure ive clogged it with dirty fuel. How can i tell if ive broken my injection pump? Does it make any special noise?

I was able to clean the fuel filter with carb cleaner and aur compressor from a diesel shop in elk city, ok. Guys at the shop tell me not far is a guy in oklahoma who buys fixes and sells mil vehicles. Anyone know him?

Kurt, did you roll yours while going highway speed?

Amtak, im thinking about converting to a 2 man with the troop seats. For sure i will need new b pillar, windshield assy, whole top kit and doors, rear left fender...the big challenge is the crushed parts of the body tub on the passenger side where a and b pillars mount. Do i have to replace the whole body tub? Or can even those struvtural pieces be unn riveted?

Dilvoy, of course you reminded me! I just called allstate and they have accepted full liability for my damages! Oh my god what a relief! Id be happy to have them pay for a rental car, but what the hell do i do with mine?

[dilvoy]

I delt with Allstate once and they were very good to deal with. You need to document your expenses. This break down is probably because of the accident so maybe motel rental is acceptable. I'm shre it would be way cheaper for them than towing the Humvee to your home. Anyhow. Perhaps there is a problem with the pick up tube inside of the fuel tank or a hose that is loose and you have air in your fuel system. That's a difficult one to track down on the side of the road with the wind blowing dust in your face, but you could check the hoses from the IP back to the fuel filter and then down to the fuel lift pump on the right front corner of the block pretty easily. If you have some fuel hose, you can have the fuel lift pump suck fuel from a Jerry can as a test. You probably know this, but you need to get the air out of the fuel filter and the lines before the engine will run or run well. This is where some starting fluid comes in handy. It is risky though as if you put in too much you could damage the engine, because it ignites super easy and could do so before a piston gets to top dead center and a bent rod could result in the worse case. It does save on cranking the battery down though. I use a one second squirt of it into the intake and then crank until is runs then peters out. It increases the rpms and primes the fuel system way faster than just cranking. If you batteries are strong and you are where you can get a jump start than just use the starter as normal.

[dilvoy]

Oh another thing. Do a real good check on your suspension, Ball Joint bolts, upper control arms, tie rods and any thing that might have been bent or cracked when you went off the road. The rear wheel on the side toward where you flipped to would probably have had the most stress. If it looks unsafe, just have everything towed home. The insurance will pay for it. You can use Kaskar for pricing on the repair parts. They sell body tubs for $12,000 or something like that and yes your body can be repaired, by riviting on new or good replacement panels, but that takes time and a bit of skill. It will take time away from other things that you might be doing so you need to get the money for having a professional do the job and then you can decide if you want to do it yourself. Don't forget hidden damages that get found later. This is where you negotiating skills will be tested. You'll need to show them how nice your Humvee was at the time of the collision and how much it would cost to buy another one in the same condition. "Like kind and quality" is the insurance company lingo for this. Their data books on car values will be useless on the Humvee, so you need to show them how much these things cost by showing them ads for humvees for sale and e bay auctions. A basic configuration humvee in good operable condition is typically at least $25,000. Then add on the extras. You have the IBISTEK can and tire racks which can be had for about $600 each plus shipping. If they are bent they need to be replaced to be safe. Don't forget the four wheel alignment that will need to be done at the end of the repairs. The tires that came off of the beads could be compromised.

[AMTAK]

If that frame is bent or you have major body damage like needing a d-beam or b-beam they will total it. then you have to buy it back a do a reconstruction on it.
That will take weeks to months just dealing with paper work.
When you get to that military truck place make sure you get it up in the air for the adjuster.
Good luck

[Ted Gates]

WOW what a ride(not the crash)! Sorry about the crash and am happy no one got hurt! Go through the truck with a fine tooth comb and write down everything suspect. Ask more questions here so that we can provide pointers as George and Steve have done. If you need pricing on finished trucks, let us know.

[Brian Wang]

Amtak, what is a d beam?

I took 2 more pictures of the damage to the body tub at the windshield frame mount, and b pillar base. Those are what bother me most as far as allstate wanting to total my vehicle.

http://biofuelcrusader.tumblr.com/post/ ... -that-part

Well im with James Brown of browns military vehicles, here in binger, ok. He sure has a fleet of m35 dueces and other even bigger military trucks, but not as much humvee stuff as i had hoped. He does have 2 injection pumps, for $400 each, is that a good price? Before i take things apart to change that out, how do i ascertain for sure that my ip is bad?

ted gates, would you be able to find me some examples of sold m998s in various conditions so i can fwd then to allstate as evidence for how much my truck would have been worth?

[Ted Gates]

A-pillar is what the windsheild sits on and is the full width of the tub. It is part of the tub and is what is crunched in one of your pictures. Replaceable with time and rivets and sealant.

B-beam is is the C-channel that is the full width of the tub and is located behind the driver's and front passenger's seat, about 1' from the floor (you can miss it). This is hard to find but they are out there. Replaceable with time and rivets and sealant.


C-beam is the channel that is full width of the tub and is located behind rear passengers seat. Replaceable with time and rivets and sealant.

D-beam is the rear most channel that is full width of the tub and the tail gate bolts to it and the rear fenders connect to it. Replaceable with time and rivets and sealant. I know Steve has these.

Get the number of the injection pump and google it so see what it fits. There are several ip's for humvees.

I have sold several M998's, I will send this information to you now.

[Kurt Lesser]

Brian,

I had similar damage to the A pillar on my truck when I got it and using a porta-power and some healthy wooded blocks to protect the floor I pushed it all back out to the original position. I had a corner bracket made from 1/8" aluminum, bonded and riveted it into place. other than a hint of plastic for those who know where to look the truck is good as new.

My advice is take your time and use proper (or better) materials. Cutting corners on a repair of this type will only require you to do it again correctly somewhere down the road.

Kurt Lesser

[dilvoy]

Brian, They can't "total" it, but they won't want to pay more to fix it than what your vehicle was worth before the collision. Their price guides will mean nothing for a Humvee. You will need to show them what they sell for so go on e bay and find auctions for humvees. You will have to have their adjustor see the vehicle at which point they may want it taken to a body shop for an estimate. Their shop will give a cheap price and they will have your vehicle. I would suggest taking it to a shop of your choosing or Just list the parts needed for the repair of your "rare and classic" vehicle. The body tub could have hidden damage so a complete tub from Kaskar should be on the parts list. Then when they have the parts cost, the estimate of labor for your vehicle and the selling price of comparable Humvees, they could make an educated decision. If you love your humvee and want to fix it, they can pay the repair estimate and you fix it on your own or have a shop do it. Or they give you the money that would get you one of the comparables that you show them. They will want to pay whichever is cheaper. If the repair cost is higher than the replacement cost with a comparable vehicle, they will want to give you the lower money of the comparable vehicle and you tell then that you are taking the lower amount, but you are not surrendering the vehicle and will fix it with that money. I think it is very important to keep the vehicle in your posession or in the posession of a shop that you are working in and don't let storage fees get out of hand. Don't forget about having them get you a loaner car right away and watch for signs of injury. They may not show up right away. Just look for a change in how your body feels. If you notice anything, get it checked out.

[dilvoy]

Hey Brian, Maybe your no start issue is not fuel supply but an electrical problem with the power to the fuel shut off solenoid on the Injector Pump. There are two wire connections on the top cover of the IP. One is for the cold start advance and the other is for the fuel shut off solenoid. I don't remember which is which right now, but the shut off connection needs 24 volts to allow for fuel to pass through. If you have someone inside of the Humvee switch the ign to the run position, you should hear a click if you are up on top of the engine. If that does not happen, maybe you have a wire issue or ground wire issue. You can hot wire it with a small wire from the batteries to see if it will work.