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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Ben Dover » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:25 pm

The facility at the now closed Loring Air Force Base is run by the support personnel of the Maine Army Guard, many of the technicians are civilians. They submit bits to DOD on the rebuilding, they are highly competitive and have performed the task cheaper and more efficiently than some of the Army Depots. Many of the technicians are farm boys that bring the Aroostook County work ethic with them. M-110 SP Guns, 5 Tons, Cat Dozers, and Humvees appear to be the norm.
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Hell On Wheels » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:28 pm

Bob Shaw wrote:Yes, DoL has the capability ,and does so every day.Red River Army Depot does as well.I would be willing to bet they end up here or there.If here that is just a bit more job security for me.


I would agree Red River could rebuild these HMMWV, but to ship down (south) Ft Sam from Ft Hood then north again, no I don’t think so, especially Ft Hood has one of the best railheads in the Army and would have been shipped directly. Though I have questioned a lot of things the Army will do! Government Liquidations buys these for about $50.00 to $200.00 dollars, from my inside connection. They buy these sell them off for scarp. If they end up here they are civilian contracted to be DE milled or scraped. I do remember when I returned from Iraq it took over 12 months to get our vehicles back from the refit program out of Ft Hood. As mentioned before the cost to refurbish far exceeds the cost of ownership. The cost analysis is based on its life cycle that the government had determined to scrap these puppies.
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Hell On Wheels » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:32 pm

Bob Shaw wrote:That seems odd. We rebuild them up here at Fort Hood all the time.I know I see trucks headed to Red River Army Depot loaded with the all the time for refit and rebuild.


Hey my friend works in DOL used to be the tank shop, Mark Benefied, you know?
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby unclesamsurplus » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:35 pm

Using soldiers to rebuild them would have bveen too cost effective i guess. Every government contractor overcharges. Take a look at the aquisition cost on every item on government liquidation. $10,000. for a toilet bowl.
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Hell On Wheels » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:40 pm

unclesamsurplus wrote:I've been to Red River and seen the hmmwv's being rebuilt. There were hundreds of trucks in the junkyard in every configuration. However the rebuilding is done mostly by civilians and I'm sure private contractors are overcharging the govt. I recantly read an article about the future of the program decided by genius's in washington. The article is dated January 2012. see here...
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/01/24/report-army-cancels-humvee-recap-places-bets-on-jltv/


You hit the nail on the head; the cost to rebuild far exceeds the use.
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Hell On Wheels » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:31 pm

Well just to give everyone an update, "Yes" they are off to the scrap yard :shock: :( . When I picked up my trailer, I went to go talk to the yard boss and he said in a few weeks a trucking company was hired to haul these off to the scrap yard. I poked around and most of these vehicles start and run. They are from 3rd ACR unit as was my trailer. He was amazed to see the condition of my HMMWV as it was the same year model as most of these were. He wanted me to write my congressman and complain about how much money the government could make to resale. So I gave him the story of AMG wanting them off the street and how many vehicles we left behind in Iraq when my unit redepoyed back in 2005. What a shame :evil:
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Hell On Wheels » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:36 am

Update, say good by folks, lets band togther and bid.

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/v ... vertTo=USD

This is a term contract for 10,000,000 lbs. (5000 Tons) of Aluminum HMMV s Armored and Unarmored Wheeled Vehicles. These vehicles are located at Red River Army Depot. The Term Contract will be based on advertised weight of vehicles and not by length of time. ABSOLUTELY NO PARTS REMOVAL AUTHORIZED!! These vehicles are Demil C; an approved End-Use-Certificate (EUC) will be required before any vehicle removal can occur. Vehicles must be demilitarized on-site;
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Action » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:21 am

small problem with this...
You cannot let them accumulate for more than one day. So, you will need to have enough people to work for you and the equipment and time to spend at least a year there to be there every day...

Vehicles must be demilitarized on-site;


The buyer must be able to process 10 to 15 vehicles per day from the combined sales,
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Hell On Wheels » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:45 am

It sounds like they want a local company to get this bid. Sounds odd
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby fsutterbadass » Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:33 am

i saw this the other day....and cried.

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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby dilvoy » Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:11 pm

There have been a couple of old school HMMWV's at the local National Guard Yard near me. One is an Ambulance and the other is an M998 both in really nice looking condition. Pretty cool to see some early models around, but I guess they are just there until they get taken to the scrapper. :(
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby AMTAK » Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:57 am

Look at the other lot in that sale. Sure would like a HETT.
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby fsutterbadass » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:09 am

Wow.....darn.
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby dilvoy » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:45 am

Hell On Wheels wrote:Update, say good by folks, lets band togther and bid.

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/v ... vertTo=USD

This is a term contract for 10,000,000 lbs. (5000 Tons) of Aluminum HMMV s Armored and Unarmored Wheeled Vehicles. These vehicles are located at Red River Army Depot. The Term Contract will be based on advertised weight of vehicles and not by length of time. ABSOLUTELY NO PARTS REMOVAL AUTHORIZED!! These vehicles are Demil C; an approved End-Use-Certificate (EUC) will be required before any vehicle removal can occur. Vehicles must be demilitarized on-site;



Some demil regulations require armor pieces to be cut into pieces no larger than 26"x26" or something close to that. They don't allow precision cutting with saws either. Probably only torch cutting and giant snipper machines or maybe those big shredder machings similar to brush shredders but way bigger. It would be nice if 100,000 humvees were suplussed to the public instead of being scrapped. I'd buy as many as I had money or space for, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that.
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Re: On their way to the scrap yard

Postby Ted Gates » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:28 pm

Buy tubs, frame assemblies, doors and tops when you find them. They will be gone one day due to the shedder and the rules that are in place to keep them out of the public.
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