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Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:19 pm

Worked on the steering assembly today. I cleaned the cosmolene and wax from the VPW NOS gear box and primed it. I did a dry fit of the steering wheel, the key and the nut. I found the patina on the key made insertion into the key channel of the steering shaft impossible. I used fine sand paper and slowly cleaned it up to fit snugly into the keyway. I added the steering shaft just to see how everything fits. There is a bit of resistance between the bottom of the steering wheel and the upper nylon washer, but no rotational friction between the shaft and the washer. I will adjust slightly so there is not washer to steering base contact.

Next I will take the gear box apart, clean the inside, cut a new gasket and use the neopreme seal recommended by Joe.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:31 pm

I spent some hours on the accessories for the engine. I took the horn apart, cleaned and painted it. I had to fashion a new gasket between the base and the innards. I also Finished the generator and painted it. I need to blast and paint the genny band.

I am getting close to having all of the engine and firewall mounted components finished and ready for attachment. That should make engine assembly timely . I think my clutch lower cover should be gray. I have to research that.
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by BATMOBILE1 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:49 am

17thAirborne wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:31 pm
I spent some hours on the accessories for the engine. I took the horn apart, cleaned and painted it. I had to fashion a new gasket between the base and the innards. I also Finished the generator and painted it. I need to blast and paint the genny band.

I am getting close to having all of the engine and firewall mounted components finished and ready for attachment. That should make engine assembly timely . I think my clutch lower cover should be gray. I have to research that.
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Excellent progress Oz,i can't get the nut off my steering gear shaft,so can't get it off the chassis..
The bottom cover on the clutch should be grey,i have a few and there all grey,also mine have a drain slot in them,i don't see that on yours.?
Did you get the Crinkle paint for the regulator cover.? looks like you did.
My horn was filled with nut shells,i think some hairy critter had got in there and had a feast..! and sadly it had filled with water and rusted..so it looks like i will have to buy another ..
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Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:19 am

Getting your nuts off can be a problem. :lol: Speaking of nuts, I had a similar adventure with a WLA that would get no air. The image below shows the problem. Same thing as you had with hairy critters feasting and leaving nuts for storage in my air cleaner. :o I was fortunate with my horn. It works great now. I will repaint the cover grey. It does have the small drain hole slot in the bottom, just hard to see. The wrinkle paint works good, only I did not get it thick enough on the final cote at the very corners, but it looks pretty good. I suppose its better to use too much spray than not enough to get the proper level of wrinkle.
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Post by Ernie Baals » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:49 pm

Hi Guys
The engine color should actually be silver for the half tons, except for the late T215s
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Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:19 pm

Ernie Baals wrote:
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Hi Guys
The engine color should actually be silver for the half tons, except for the late T215s
Ernie
Ernie, my sn is one of the last 1000 that fell under the 215 contract and it has an 08/44 replacement 230 T214 engine. underneath the grime it is silver as is the bell housing. Some wc restorers are opting for grey due the aesthetics. what is your opinion.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:15 am

Yesterday I inspected the first cleaning of the engine and the magna flux. It will take another cleaning before it is ready for machining as there is still crud in the block. The shop did the magna flux n the head and the head is cracked at the top. Rather than repair, I will source a replacement. Today I will have the results of the flux test on the block. It looked very nice on the outside, but the test should verify that. I should get some good progress on the block, cam and crank this week. Will report more later.
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Post by Ernie Baals » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:20 pm

Hi Oz
Your engine was probably silver from the factory
Personally, i think the silver looks better and it is correct for a WC12
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Post by 17thAirborne » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:09 pm

Spent some more time on the drive shafts. I did not like how the old cork seals inside were dry and inflexible. They prevented the u-joints from compressing enough to get the C-clamps into the grooves. I called Steve at VPW and he opened one up from the stock shelf and was in agreement. He recommended using rubber O-rings which I did. I used a size M-14 and they fit over the shoulders on the inside in place of the dry cork cushions.Here are the images from that operation. I just need to complete the tab bending and painting.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:18 pm

Cylinders are being bored to 0.060" over standard. Here is the procedure in images. They took a test bore slightly over current diameter and then moved to the 0.060" over for a final clean bore. Everything looks good so far.
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Here is a short vid of the machine at work, Sorry it is on end not upright.

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Post by 17thAirborne » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:20 pm

Ernie Baals wrote:
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Hi Oz
Your engine was probably silver from the factory
Personally, i think the silver looks better and it is correct for a WC12
Ernie
Ernie,
You are swaying me 8) I might just end up doing the silver. thankfully I have not purchased any paint yet. I was dead set on the grey until I started cleaning the engine and found silver on the block, head and some other parts......I hate vacillating, but I need to decide soon.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:12 pm

I received my spanners or bushings that fit in the two rear engine mount bumpers. I purchased a "spanner" that has an ID of 7/16" to fit the bolt and the OD is 1/2" and fits snugly into the recess of both mounts. The actual thickness of the two rubber mounts is 2 1/2", but I could not find a spanner in that length. The 2 1/8" should work fine in protecting the rubber from abrasion by the bolt and still allow the bolt to ride up and down with the movement of the engine. As you can see in the image, the spanner holds the rubber mounts together nicely. All is needed is the drilled shank, the 2" washers, slotted nut and cotter pin to hold the mounts and the metal angle part that goes onto the bell housing side.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:20 pm

I decided to finish my brake lines today. Getting the 4 lines that meet in the fitting at the front left of the frame is a small puzzle. It is best to secure the "Z" line to the left flexi brake hose, then the line that goes forward to the right wheel followed by the rear line. The rear line that runs along the left frame member is "just" long enough to allow you to secure it to the rear fitting. The two bends in that long line give it a bit of flex. After securing these lines in order, I was able to fit the junction block into its mounting hole in the left frame, followed by the rear line and then the two L/R flexible lines. There might be a better "approved solution:, but this is what worked for me. I secured the long run onto the left frame using some vintage "C" clamps with a piece of 1/4" loom over the line for cushion against abrasion. The spring to tension the flexible hose are secured onto the small fitting on the felt retainer bolt. The other end should be secured to the hose with a clamp of some sort that I have not sourced yet. Thanks to Zeph I now know how this all goes together. he has some great images of his WC build.

Sorry for the out of focus image of the multi-fitting, but you get the picture 8)
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Post by brian in denver » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:12 am

funny how weve gone from only early t207s were silver, to all half tons were silver. do I detect mission creep ?

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Post by Ernie Baals » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:27 pm

No Creep
from what i have found and researched
All T207s and T211s were silver. The gray did not start until late in the T215 series
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