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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by zepher11 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:54 am

Hi Oz,

There are two wiring points with three wires in this case:
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by 17thAirborne » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:34 am

That clears it up for me. thanks.
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:54 pm

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Zeph,

on your engine to oil pressure gauge, regarding the last connection from the hose to theq gauge.

1. Did you use 3/16" as stated in the TM?
2. Did you make the last 90 degree bend on the engine side , through the fire wall and then straight to the gauge, or did you do a flex coil bend in the cab behind the dash. to provide some room for movement prior to the gauge.

Just trying to figure how to get from the hose to the gauge. I see you made a nice hump bend to get over the rib in the fire wall. nice touch.
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by Ernie Baals » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:58 pm

Hi Oz
On my trucks, there is a metal line that goes from the gauge, through the dash ,bends down and towards the motor
I will try to get pictures for you this weekend
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by Ernie Baals » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:15 pm

There is a metal line from the engine, that hooks into a small flex line that goes into the metal line from the firewall
Here is a picture of a civilian WC to give you an idea
and a few others i found, in one you can see the flex hose over the starter
In the top picture it is the line over the voltage regulator that runs down next to it
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:30 pm

Thanks Ernie. Thats a good image of how the bend changes from vertical to horizontal to go through the firewall. Zeph duplicated that nicely on his as well. I look forward to some pics behind the dash to see how to bend to the gauge.
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by zepher11 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:00 pm

17thAirborne wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:30 pm
Thanks Ernie. Thats a good image of how the bend changes from vertical to horizontal to go through the firewall. Zeph duplicated that nicely on his as well. I look forward to some pics behind the dash to see how to bend to the gauge.
Actually, I can't take the credit. It came from John at Midwest Military. It fit like a glove and had the correct bends and fittings on it already.
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:10 pm

zepher11 wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:00 pm
17thAirborne wrote:
Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:30 pm
Thanks Ernie. Thats a good image of how the bend changes from vertical to horizontal to go through the firewall. Zeph duplicated that nicely on his as well. I look forward to some pics behind the dash to see how to bend to the gauge.
Actually, I can't take the credit. It came from John at Midwest Military. It fit like a glove and had the correct bends and fittings on it already.
ok,...thanks i'll check the site.
UPDATE: Just ordered the pipe from John.
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by 17thAirborne » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:05 am

zepher11 wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:55 am

With a little spare time I also made a foot starter pad. I used a carriage bolt and cut the threaded section off leaving the square section under the head. I then drilled the square section to allow the stater foot threaded rod to insert up into it after I welded a nut on the square section that would allow it to screw on. I also ground the head into an octagon like on my 3/4 ton weapons carriers. Not sure what the original half-ton foot starters had as a pad. At least I can get a 1 1/16" wrench on it:

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Could you be so kind as to post an image of your starter foot switch to starter interface inside of the engine compartment please. I'm having difficulty seeing how the correct connection is made as my set up was probably not proper. Did not know if it was mechanically linked, or the linkage arm on mine should be removed and the pad simply located on top of the starter button on the starter itself. I found a suitable replacement switch, just not sure how the connection goes.

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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by zepher11 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:37 pm

Hi Oz,

Was out of town this week, but should be able to get you a photo this weekend.
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by 17thAirborne » Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:42 pm

zepher11 wrote:
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Hi Oz,

Was out of town this week, but should be able to get you a photo this weekend.
tanks
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by zepher11 » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:29 pm

Oz,

Here are some photos. First two are of the Command Car. Hard to get in there with a camera. Not too much room. The third photo is looking down on a Carryall that I have for what it's worth:
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by 17thAirborne » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:36 pm

Perfect. Thanks, this helps me to sort my system out!
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by mdainsd » Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:16 pm

What an informative and inspirational thread! And the restoration, a thing of beauty!

A comment from an interested party: back about page 24 you were talking about which way the voltmeter and ammeter mounted, from the front of the dash or from the rear. The dash ribs seem to be relieved (flattened) to accept the full diameter of the mounting ring installed from the front. And when you got to the fun part about the radio cabinet, all the pictures (that I could make out) had those meters installed from the front. Just an observation.

Sidebar if I may? This thread has me concerned about my latest project. I fell in love with the WC56, 57 fifty six years ago. I found one as a very young man on a farm by me. I would stop by daily and clean the leaves and brush out of it and from around it. Cleaned all the cobwebs etc off of it. The farmer could tell I really like it and he hadn't used it in years. One day he told me I could have it. My heart soared...until I got home. This was the first time in my life I heard the term "Not no but HECK NO!!!", heck substituted for the actual word used.

Since then I have never been in the right place at the right time to acquire my dream MV...until a couple of weeks ago. A project one popped up on my side of the continent and I could afford it. Done deal!

But after looking this entire thread over a couple times, I am not sure I can do my new acquisition justice. Only time will tell I guess, but this thread has a bar to aim for.

Thanks for sharing all your effort!
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Re: Dodge WC16 Radio Command Car - Project

Post by zepher11 » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:11 pm

mdainsd wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:16 pm
What an informative and inspirational thread! And the restoration, a thing of beauty!

A comment from an interested party: back about page 24 you were talking about which way the voltmeter and ammeter mounted, from the front of the dash or from the rear. The dash ribs seem to be relieved (flattened) to accept the full diameter of the mounting ring installed from the front. And when you got to the fun part about the radio cabinet, all the pictures (that I could make out) had those meters installed from the front. Just an observation.

Sidebar if I may? This thread has me concerned about my latest project. I fell in love with the WC56, 57 fifty six years ago. I found one as a very young man on a farm by me. I would stop by daily and clean the leaves and brush out of it and from around it. Cleaned all the cobwebs etc off of it. The farmer could tell I really like it and he hadn't used it in years. One day he told me I could have it. My heart soared...until I got home. This was the first time in my life I heard the term "Not no but HECK NO!!!", heck substituted for the actual word used.

Since then I have never been in the right place at the right time to acquire my dream MV...until a couple of weeks ago. A project one popped up on my side of the continent and I could afford it. Done deal!

But after looking this entire thread over a couple times, I am not sure I can do my new acquisition justice. Only time will tell I guess, but this thread has a bar to aim for.

Thanks for sharing all your effort!
Thank you for your kind compliments. On the gauges...I defaulted to the inside as it appeared that all of the gauges when I found the WC16 were never removed and all, including the volt and amp gauge, were mounted from the inside. I also checked with a few others that had original half-tons and the consensus at that time were that they were mounted from the inside. However, I have seen others mount them on the outside. The speedo, and rectangle gauges, all have the same seam that the volt and amp gauges have that allow them to be centered in the dash mounting holes from the inside, so they all look like the are mounted the same. Could still be wrong, but I elected to stick to the way they were originally mounted in my rig. Good observation, however. It has been a topic of conversation.

Can you post up some photos of your CC? Is it a WC56 or 57? Would like to see it. I have a WC57 that I would like to restore soon.

You can do it justice. It's just a matter of getting out there and knocking off one little project at time. Then, eventually, it all starts coming together. Lot of help on here as well if you get into trouble or have questions.

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