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Post by Beers » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:13 pm

Looks really good Oz, well done on the TC...
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:41 am

Thank you. It was a quick yet rewarding task. I'm looking forward to getting the steering done.
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Post by Andy N » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:54 pm

Hi,just purchased 4162 WC12 for restoration.
I have located the data plate located on the passenger door pillar however not sure where to find chassis, frame number, can any body please help?

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Post by Ernie Baals » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:59 pm

Hi ANDY
The frame number is on the drivers side frame rail, facing out in front of the shock absorber
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:49 pm

Started the tear down of the steering box. I do not have a Gemmer installed, rather a Saginaw Gear type. Will need to do some research on parts if needed. For now It looks like common stuff and I'll probably replace the bearings and cups.

Wear between the end of the sector shaft at the adj nut end between the shaft and the bushing is right at 0.0025:, so I am happy to leave that alone. I have to check the other two bushings at the Pittman arm end.

Good enough for today.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:03 pm

Research shows this to be from a G506 and 508. Would obviously work as it was in there, but I will probably swap it out. NOS is $350
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:40 pm

Worked on the short shaft today. Just did the initial cleaning in kerosene.
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Post by Ernie Baals » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:13 pm

Are all the u joints in your truck like that?
The u joints you have are for early WC1s or early 3/4 tons
They are actually a better joint and a hellova lot cheaper :)
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:27 pm

That is nice to know. Yes the whole drive line is small detroit with the same u-joints. WHere is the best place to get the joints?
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Post by Ernie Baals » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:42 pm

All the dealers have them Midwest, Vintage etc
should be around 25 to 30 each
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:46 pm

Ernie Baals wrote:
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All the dealers have them Midwest, Vintage etc
should be around 25 to 30 each
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Thanks Ernie, I thought I saw those somewhere for $24. I was pleased that it was not the other type. :shock:
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Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:04 am

I decided to remove the old U joints, even though they were serviceable. I spent over an hour cleaning each end with them in. By removing them the clean up is really fast. Well :oops: ya live and learn. Now I can make a more informed decision on replacing or re-using. These are the Detroit type and the bearing retainer caps are 1.250" in diameter and the end to end dimension is 3.000" The shafts are the 16 spline type and the ends are machined to accept 1.250" bearing caps. These are referred to as Small Detroit. The TM shows the Mechanics type installed and as Ernie commented above, but the detroit's are stronger and cheaper to replace. ($24 vs $69 at VPW 8) )
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Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:53 pm

Direct Cost updated today after a big order and we are at $8135
Getting closer
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Post by twinflyer17 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:19 am

17thAirborne wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:53 pm
Direct Cost updated today after a big order and we are at $8135
Getting closer
That includes the truck itself?
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Post by 17thAirborne » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:12 am

twinflyer17 wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:19 am
17thAirborne wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 3:53 pm
Direct Cost updated today after a big order and we are at $8135
Getting closer
That includes the truck itself?
It does, but i left out the 1357 hours of my labor at $1.25/ hr😆 The first post has a comprehensive list of all parts costs. I still have engine rebuild costs, sheet metal work on the cab, glass and weather stripping, wiring, wood bed and some misc items. I estimate another $4500 before I am done.

This is my first complete restoration and i was way off on what i thought the parts cost would be. I plan on continuing to restore more MVs from the frame up in this detailed manner. The sale of this when done will fund the next projects.
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