Any comments and suggestion?

[RommelJuan]

Hi Fritter,

We talked to our dealers about this but they prefer the tubs with no holes as there are different handle suppliers, foot man loop suppliers and such. So it's best if the user drill their own holes.

thanks,
Rommel

How about offering an MB kit with all the necessary holes drilled into the body and frame? You could leave "optional" item holes out. I have just spent the summer with one of your MB kits, drilling and aligning.....quite a chore, but it looks great.
Thanks,
Duane

[RommelJuan]

hi Boyso,

we'll look into these items:

For reference so far, these are the issues I had (that I remember)
Front bumper holes were incorrectly spaced
Rear bumper was too short by 9/16"
All 4 of the new spring hangers had the threads cut too sharp
Holes missing from the frame rails kits


and get back to you asap.

Can you also take pictures?

Rommel

Double check your existing part for correct measurements before bringing new products would by my suggestion. So far none of the parts I bought were an exact fit to the original parts I had

It's great to have you for the hobby though, there's just one or two thing that was wrong with the parts I bought, would be nice to see them corrected

For reference so far, these are the issues I had (that I remember)
Front bumper holes were incorrectly spaced
Rear bumper was too short by 9/16"
All 4 of the new spring hangers had the threads cut too sharp
Holes missing from the frame rails kits

I just saw a long thread about your build Boyso. I'll read it first and get back to you.

[RommelJuan]

Hi Guys,

Haven't been here in awhile. I'll try to have answers for all questions.

Rommel of MDJuan

[RommelJuan]

I spent the better part of a trip to camp delta a few years ago with someone from MD Juan that said he was the son of the owner. I showed him all of the differences between MB and GPW, both early and late that I could find on jeeps at the meet. He told me he would be in touch and he had ALL of my contact info.He seemed to be very interested and took some photos with his phone. I never heard a word from anyone and the conclusion of a LOT of people is that MD Juan doesn't care enough to make things right as there products continue to sell reguardless.

Hi Scott,

I went back with all the info and implemented all the corrections necessary. Sorry I wan't able to get in touch. But I do go to the Gee once in awhile.

Rommel

[RommelJuan]

The way they are going they will be out of business soon. We will have a hard time finding an MD Juan body. What they were selling was crap but with no competition they managed to sell all over the world. When Genmarc was still in business they tried to do some quality control. Things got changed and improved. With MD Juan I see things get worse as they produce more. I think the dies are worn out. Please stop making Jeep parts.

Jack.

Hi Jack,

We sure don't want or plan to go out of business. We do work closely with Ron Fitzpatrick and our other dealers to constantly improve our products.

Best,
Rommel

[RommelJuan]

Hey Guys
Been a while, but I'm glad it's not just been me who's had a bad experience. One thing l will defiantly look out for is if l buy a new jeep is not to buy one with a repro md juan body. Sure we should be grateful for somebody making reproduction parts, but them fitting is also a big part of it too, and fitment they do not!
All the best Md Juan with product improvement and also making notes from marketing department.

Pls specify which did not fit. We will share with you if it has been corrected.

Rommel

[RommelJuan]

I would suggest answering your emails, as we have talked a few times but I seem to be left hanging with no answers.

what email address do you use? please email us at sales.mdjuan@gmail.com

[RommelJuan]

I honestly think this is the "we are fixing all our products and give us your thoughts for further improvment" which comes around about every 12 months and asside from a couple of holes not much will change, see you in about a years time when we can all view your latest additions with the drill.

we constantly do product improvements. we never stopped. We just had a little hiatus from the message boards. but we're back.

Rommel

[RommelJuan]

You guys at MD JUAN can say thank you and all that as much as you want but until you take the time to get a couple of jeep experts over to your facility and get your stuff correct, no one over here is going to listen to anything you guys say. All we hear is blah blah blah and the sound of your laughter cashing our checks! We are the ones keeping you in business and you have done NOTHING to show us any thanks at all. I personally have spent into the five figures on your stuff and have had to get rid of all of it for it does not fit/work or perform as you guys claim! I very well might be kicked off G503 for putting this so strongly but I am only saying what everyone else is thinking!

Hi Scott.

we do constantly talk to experts to improve our products. We're in touch with Ron Fitzpatrick, Daryl Bensinger, Mike Stopforth, Denise Le Priole, Graham Lycett and Niel Goodridge.

the reason we are asking for the specific quality problem is for us to check if it has already been improved and if not we will be on it right away.

Rommel

[RommelJuan]

Most panels now are available from other sources. Think MD Juan is on the way out. If you can't satisfy your customers and make only parts that don't fit you will be out of business soon. I think the guys in England know what parts the restorer needs and they makle them to a very high standard. I think there is still some work to be done there to make complete MB - GPW bodies but they are not far off. Prices are good. Everything fits and if there is a problem you can call them direct.

Jack.

For the UK. Our dealer is Jeep Parts UK. They are good folks like Ron F I'm sure they will give you good products and service.

I checked out Joe's Motor Pool online. Looks like they have nice GP sheet panel stuff.

Best,
Rommel

[RommelJuan]

by MDJUAN_MARKETING » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:04 pm
Thank you so much for your cooperation.
MD Juan really appreciated your comments and suggestion,
I will forward all issues to our management and update you as soon as possible.

Thanks again Ka-Juan

Don't these replies sound like One Big Fat Insincere Charade?

yes they do,,its a joke,,nothing is being done

rest assured we are doing continous improvements on MDJuan products

[Ian Fawbert]

Hi Rommel and co.


Good to see you back on here!

Any word on this which was being looked into from 2013 regarding CORRECT GPW style front bumper gussets as opposed to the generic non MB non GPW style currently offered?

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Re: MDJuan product development wish list
Postby Ian Fawbert » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:43 am

Hi Rommel,

Just in follow up to the bumper plates.
The one in your photo 'GPW Left upper gusset inner flange', where the flange is measured by you at 0.58" is a GPW correct gusset.
The one in your photo 'GPW right upper gusset outer flange', is not of the GPW style, but i believe more the MB style- 0.38" as measured in your photo. This is the same for the next photo (i think you mis labelled it as left, when it should be right/drivers side) which shows the inner flange as 0.33". Note this gusset is bolted on and i believe has been replaced.

Here are some photos of the ates on GPW 10380 with its original chassis ends- squared off as correct for a VEP Ford GPW Frame before they changed to the angled frame ends. Regardless of the date of the chassis, they are still the correct style for ALL Fords.
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I hope this helps in making proper bumper gusset plates! I noted your comment that you dont make the like the GPW one, but they are very very close. I dont think they are that close- especially when there is such a large difference in that pesky flange! These are the small details i think you need to aim for and it seems you want to do, hence your here seeking feedback on your great line of products to make them excellent. Like i have said before, i will happily buy them and would buy them even if at a higher price (dont know why they should be?), to know i was getting the CORRECT part for my GPW.

If i can help any more with them, or if you need measurements (especially the bottom ones as you seem to have a top one), please let me know and i shall do what I can.

Cheers,
Ian.

RommelJuan wrote:
Ian Fawbert wrote:
Is it possible to make ACCURATE Ford and Willys front bumper gusset plates (the ones which go on the end of the chassis rails for the bumper to attach to and 99.9% of vehicles require accurately to be factory correct!).

There IS a difference in the Ford and Willys ones (As we know, a script F stamped in doesnt always make it Ford!).
Ford plates have a MUCH larger flange on the vertical sides/edges of theplate compared to current repro's (regardless of who has made them, i havent seen a CORRECT one).
The Willys ones have a smaller flange on the vertical side/edge compared to Fords and i also believe current repro's (again, regardless of who has made them).

Cheers,
Ian.


Hi Ian,

You are right. Here's the detailed measurement of an original Ford bumper gusset.

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We don't make it exactly like that but it is ver very close. We patterned our gussets to the MB ones.
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[RommelJuan]

let me check on this Ian. Will get back to you soon.

Rommel

[jason m]

Rommal, I have messaged you via a pm, I have tried the Sales email but never get a return.

[Boyso]

hi Boyso,

we'll look into these items:

For reference so far, these are the issues I had (that I remember)
Front bumper holes were incorrectly spaced
Rear bumper was too short by 9/16"
All 4 of the new spring hangers had the threads cut too sharp
Holes missing from the frame rails kits


and get back to you asap.

Can you also take pictures?

Rommel

Double check your existing part for correct measurements before bringing new products would by my suggestion. So far none of the parts I bought were an exact fit to the original parts I had

It's great to have you for the hobby though, there's just one or two thing that was wrong with the parts I bought, would be nice to see them corrected

For reference so far, these are the issues I had (that I remember)
Front bumper holes were incorrectly spaced
Rear bumper was too short by 9/16"
All 4 of the new spring hangers had the threads cut too sharp
Holes missing from the frame rails kits

I just saw a long thread about your build Boyso. I'll read it first and get back to you.

Shows how much metal I had to add



Primered one is the original horn, green is the MDJuan one


I didn't want to sound harsh, your products did make my job easier. However I believe feedback is the best way to improve and I hope you can improve your products. Thanks for your support and your work.