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Re: shovels and more shovels ADDED more info

Posted: Sat May 11, 2013 7:54 am
by Johan WILLAERT
I came across this shovel which has a couple of features that I had never encountered before...
Would like some input on production timeframe and use...

When I found it, it was covered in several layers of red paint over black, no OD was found while removing the paint...

Marked 2 over HEAT TREATED over D 5
Handle is marked: PIQUA.OHIO U.S.A. which google tells me was the home of the WOOD Shovel & Tool Co
Handle is reinforced on both sides where the blade is attached
Handle end has a metal tip visible on the open blade end

All info appreciated... Thanks

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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:35 am
by Johan WILLAERT
Here's another official reference to the shovels...

Quartermaster Supply Catalog QM3-4, List of items for issue to troops, miscellaneous organizational equipment (dated 1945)

Shovel is listed on page §&7: Shovel, General Purpose, D-Handle, Strap Back, Round Point, N°2 StockNr 41-S-3170

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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:42 am
by Johan WILLAERT
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Here's an axe from my collection bearing the Stock Number 41-A-1277...

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Note how there's a difference between this one and the Axe, Camp also shown on page 1 of the manual referred to in the previous post...

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So from what John posted before, this would be the correct one for the Jeep... But how about the Camp Axe???

My axe is proof that sometimes tools were marked with the stocknumber... So how about shovels? Has anyone come across a N°2 shovel with stock number?

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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 12:05 pm
by Johan WILLAERT
Added this one to the collection last week...

Only markings are JONES 2

Shovel fits the 'Flea Market' test...

Someone told me this could be Canadian production??!!

Any ideas??? Thanks

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Re: shovels and more shovels ADDED more info

Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:54 am
by Johan WILLAERT
Johan WILLAERT wrote:Just bumping this excellent topic back to the top with this early U.S.E.D. shovel which I received as a Christmas gift from a collector friend...
Metal seems to be bronze or something like that
No maker marks, only I and 4 on the cast grip....

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Believe the GI on the right in this picture has one of these U.S.E.D. marked shovels...

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:42 am
by Marty, SoCal
I found this picture for sale on epay, it has a good picture of a shovel in use in the Desert Training center,1942:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/201159838245

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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:11 am
by ww11models
Mmmmmmm! I should take a look at what's on my Jeep they look real old cheers

Re: shovels and more shovels ADDED more info

Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:14 am
by bpinkerton
Great stuff helped in securing the right shovel for my Jeep!

Re: shovels and more shovels ADDED more info

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:03 pm
by Roger
It appears that we have lost John Barton's images. At least on my browser. Wish I had copied them.

Re: shovels and more shovels ADDED more info

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:05 pm
by Jon
Thankfully, John's images were saved...........with his permission......

http://jeepdraw.com/John_Barton1_Shovels.html

JR

Re: shovels and more shovels ADDED more info

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:49 am
by Roger
There ya go! Thanks Jon!

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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:40 pm
by dclakerat
I know this is everything you wanted to know about tools but were afraid to ask.But we haven't said any thing about the little M38 tools.I've got an axe But shovels are a different animal can someone with knowledge tell me if they are the same or a different animal. Thanks