11" AUTO type adjustable wrench

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Re: 11" AUTO type adjustable wrench

Post by Jeff H » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:12 pm

Now to find one of those clip on serrated jaw adapters! G503 applicable or not I want one!


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Re: 11" AUTO type adjustable wrench

Post by d42jeep » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:36 pm

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Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:19 am
Mike,

Everyone in this thread is familiar with Jeep toolkit tools, including the wrench in question. And I am pretty sure we all have or have had at least one example if not several examples from a few different mfgrs (B&S, Fairmount, Moore, etc).
You could say that. Here are a few of my extras. Top to bottom-- Prewar Billings 12", abused Moore 12",' Herbrand 11"', two Diamond 11" and a Vlchek 11".
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Re: 11" AUTO type adjustable wrench

Post by Wolfman » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:16 am

Intel received.
Same basic design. All similar but different. Depending on manufacturer.
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Re: 11" AUTO type adjustable wrench

Post by lucakiki » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:56 am

Wingnutt wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:21 am
Luca,

As promised, and as a follow-up to my earlier post concentrating on what the government (QMC, Ordnance Dept) actually called the wrench in their on-board toolkit specifications (ES 422), the Oct 44 SNL G503, and the wrenches catalog (ORD 5 SNL J-4) - again, unanimously "Automobile", I also checked a few other documents.

The earlier SNL G503 (January 1944) abbreviates it to "auto". Verbatim, "WRENCH, screw, adjustable, auto type, 11 in."

Willys, which, as you know, got all of its specifications from QMC HQMB and then Ordnance Dept TAC ES 422, consistently abbreviated "Automobile Type" to "Auto Type" in all its key documents, apparently saving typists valuable minutes, cumulatively. :) Seriously, I can't find a single Willys document where it is fully spelled out. (As a light-hearted aside, there is one BOM - MB Navy MZ-2 - that takes a mistake to a humorous level, mistyping "Auto-Type" as "Auto-Lite", erroneously suggesting that the ignition/spark plug specialists made the wrench!)

FWIW, on page 610 of the Ford Master Parts List (SNL G-558), dated February 1944, it (GP 17021) is identified as "WRENCH, automobile type".

SNL G502 (Dodge) goes the abbreviated route, referring to it as a "WRENCH, screw, adj., auto."

Strangely, Chevy doesn't seem to have followed through on the TAC ES specs as well as Willys, Ford, and Dodge. The authors of the SNL G506 drop any and all pretense to classify its application for automobiles instead of bicycles (if I had to guess, as unnecessarily obvious), referring to it simply as a "WRENCH, screw, adjustable (11 in.)"

Greg , Iwill do my best to locate again that document that is buried somewhere in my files. It surprised me, when I read "automatic", because previously I had always assumed that auto was short for "automobile" or "automotive".
Of course is just academic, because whatever we call it, for me it is Moore for GPWs, and Fairmount or Billings&Spencer for MBs... :)
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Re: 11" AUTO type adjustable wrench

Post by Wingnutt » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:12 pm

No worries, Luca. As you say, it's academic anyway, and I was just curious for the source.
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Re: 11" AUTO type adjustable wrench

Post by d42jeep » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:31 pm

lucakiki wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:56 am
Wingnutt wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:21 am
Luca,

As promised, and as a follow-up to my earlier post concentrating on what the government (QMC, Ordnance Dept) actually called the wrench in their on-board toolkit specifications (ES 422), the Oct 44 SNL G503, and the wrenches catalog (ORD 5 SNL J-4) - again, unanimously "Automobile", I also checked a few other documents.

The earlier SNL G503 (January 1944) abbreviates it to "auto". Verbatim, "WRENCH, screw, adjustable, auto type, 11 in."

Willys, which, as you know, got all of its specifications from QMC HQMB and then Ordnance Dept TAC ES 422, consistently abbreviated "Automobile Type" to "Auto Type" in all its key documents, apparently saving typists valuable minutes, cumulatively. :) Seriously, I can't find a single Willys document where it is fully spelled out. (As a light-hearted aside, there is one BOM - MB Navy MZ-2 - that takes a mistake to a humorous level, mistyping "Auto-Type" as "Auto-Lite", erroneously suggesting that the ignition/spark plug specialists made the wrench!)

FWIW, on page 610 of the Ford Master Parts List (SNL G-558), dated February 1944, it (GP 17021) is identified as "WRENCH, automobile type".

SNL G502 (Dodge) goes the abbreviated route, referring to it as a "WRENCH, screw, adj., auto."

Strangely, Chevy doesn't seem to have followed through on the TAC ES specs as well as Willys, Ford, and Dodge. The authors of the SNL G506 drop any and all pretense to classify its application for automobiles instead of bicycles (if I had to guess, as unnecessarily obvious), referring to it simply as a "WRENCH, screw, adjustable (11 in.)"

Greg , Iwill do my best to locate again that document that is buried somewhere in my files. It surprised me, when I read "automatic", because previously I had always assumed that auto was short for "automobile" or "automotive".
Of course is just academic, because whatever we call it, for me it is Moore for GPWs, and Fairmount or Billings&Spencer for MBs... :)
And apparently for the Navy NAF, it was Diamond.
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