my 2017 flea market finds...

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Re: my 2017 flea market finds...

Post by maddawg308 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:39 am

Not flea market, but Craigslist, I managed to score my first grease gun and military tool box! I'm pretty sure the grease gun is the right pedigree, Alemite Model Z584. Cost me $10, if it's the wrong one oh well, I could use a good grease gun for the shop.
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The toolbox I'm sure it's the right one, size is 21 x 8.5 x 7.5, tray has round handle and a single oiler hole. 34 hinge sections per side. I can't find any stamping or nomenclature anywhere on it. It's been painted several times and has surface rust in place, only one dent. In places where the newer paint is worn you can see the original green paint. It's in fair shape, and perhaps I paid too much for it, but it's my first, and I wanted to save it (don't we all say that?). Since it's not in the best shape, and I don't see this as having any significant collector value in it's current shape, I will probably strip it down and repaint - I am the type to save things in their original condition if I believe they are in good enough shape to show what they looked like BACK THEN, but if it's beat up enough like this one is there's no sin in doing a refurbishment on it, the Smithsonian isn't going to care about the original patina being lost on this box. :D

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Re: my 2017 flea market finds...

Post by maddawg308 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:00 pm

Another good Saturday at the flea market, with some saves and a couple disappointments, but oh well.

Pintle hook for $5, not sure what the markings on the jaws mean, maybe just part numbers. But worth the investment!
Also an Eagle oil can, painted OD green over much of it. Tip is curved, though, wish it was a straight one.
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- Lectrolite Corp 15/16 and 1-inch DBE wrench, I believe this is more 1930s than wartime, but close
- long-handled screwdriver, about 14-1/4 long, stamped TOBRIN on the shaft
- this had me disappointed, I thought it was the Signal Corp wire tool LC-24, turned out it's the post-war 132-12 wire crimping tool made by Klein :(
- Utica 8-inch adjustable wrench, model 91-8, bare steel finish
- H. Boker 6-inch wire snips, marked "H. Boker & Co. Made in USA" on one side, stamped "U S" on the other, so this was probably in a GI tool kit at one time. Too bad the tips are ground down someting fierce
- Utica 6-inch wire snips, model 41-6
- 7-inch needlenose pliers, no markings on it at all
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Set of wood boring bits stored in a green canvas roll, labeled "Tool Roll, Type BG-47, Signal Corps, US Army". Date anyone? Why are wood auger bits in a roll for the Signal Corps?
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Re: my 2017 flea market finds...

Post by lt.luke » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:59 pm

pintle.... suspect that's an M38 (early) pintle?

wood bits....drilling in poles, maybe? It makes sense to me.

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Post by maddawg308 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:30 pm

lt.luke wrote:wood bits....drilling in poles, maybe? It makes sense to me.
Now that you mention it, that make sense to me too. I'm just used to seeing wood tools in sets and pioneer trailers meant for engineers. I was thinking perhaps the tool roll was for more, electronic or radio related objects, and that the previous owner just shoved the auger bits in there for their own storage concerns. Perhaps I'm wrong - your idea does make a lot of sense.

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Post by mudbox » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:29 pm

The oiler looks correct, just that the spout has been bent at some point. You could try to straighten it, but the hollow spout may collapse on you. Proceed with care.
Would like to see a closeup of the U.S. marked Boker side cutters. I've found U.S. marked Boker linesman and round nose pliers, but haven't seen the 6" side cutters yet. Good find!

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Post by Tower Rat » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:52 am

Cool flea market finds you have a salute to you! Here is my tractor shop swap meet score I found last year for twenty dollars,
just had to have , I plan to make a Tater Gun out of it :lol: Image

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Post by maddawg308 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:02 am

mudbox wrote:Would like to see a closeup of the U.S. marked Boker side cutters. I've found U.S. marked Boker linesman and round nose pliers, but haven't seen the 6" side cutters yet. Good find!

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Here ya go, Jason, I wish the pic were better but all I got is a cell camera. Back and front...
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Post by d42jeep » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:06 am

The markings on my NAF Diamond auto wrench are a little different being forged in rather than stamped.


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Post by Chuck Lutz » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:14 am

Post war pintle hitches had a hole drilled in the top jaw for a cotter pin and the chain on the cotter pin was riveted onto the hitch. I can't see the other side for the markings but perhaps yours was a WWII Pintle hitch that got retro'ed for safety or...it is a post war pintle.

Are you sure the grease gun isn't a Model 5585?
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Post by lucakiki » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:14 am

Chuck Lutz wrote:
Are you sure the grease gun isn't a Model 5585?
It is stamped Z 584, so why should it be a 5585?

The gun in the picture shows what could be mistook for a damage, but is actually the place for a fitting.


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Post by Wingnutt » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:44 am

maddawg308 wrote:Set of wood boring bits stored in a green canvas roll, labeled "Tool Roll, Type BG-47, Signal Corps, US Army". Date anyone? Why are wood auger bits in a roll for the Signal Corps?
TE-11, TE44, and TE-46 all had bit sets. Axes, draw knives, and other woodworking tools. It looks post-war to me but you can try to match it up in this thread. viewtopic.php?f=48&t=273451
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Post by maddawg308 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:32 am

lucakiki wrote:It is stamped Z 584, so why should it be a 5585?

The gun in the picture shows what could be mistook for a damage, but is actually the place for a fitting.
Exactly! There is a place for a fitting there, but no fitting is present. Would the Z584 grease gun be correct for GMTK, or should I keep looking?

I bought a pile of vintage tools this weekend, still going through them! In the meantime, I did find this tool, looks like a Lincoln, either a suction pump or a grease gun, not sure what it is exactly. Stamped "US ORD" on the front.
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Post by d42jeep » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:56 am

I believe that to be an early suction gun. Cool find. Actually the GMTK doesn't have a grease gun but the onboard toolset for an early Jeep came with a gun that looks similar to the one you found. Below is a picture of my former placeholder 7584 and the 5585 gun from my Jeep set. The 7584 has a fitting to facilitate easy refilling.
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Post by Wingnutt » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:37 am

d42jeep wrote:I believe that to be an early suction gun. Cool find.
I agree with Don. That is a great find. For tranny and differential oil. It was issued to several 2nd, 3rd and 4th echelon unit/shop-level (shared among many mechanics) tool-sets. I have a similar gun marked U.S. Q.M.C. in the exact same place.
Here's a good pic of yours in a 1942 layout shown with the flexible spout detached and below it: viewtopic.php?p=1625356#p1625356
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Re: my 2017 flea market finds...

Post by henry501 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:42 pm

Mad dawg,

Did you get my PM about the Lincoln suction gun?

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