Early Bird Gets the Worms
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Early Bird Gets the Worms
Today's "Early Bird" haul...
The unmistakably distinctive shape gives way the maker of these GMTK water pump pliers…, as much as the “8742” AISI steel grade mark on the flip side of this DOE wrench…
…reveals that it was made by Herbrand, with a nice, crisp block letter logo and “1027C” ISN marking. Back to the water pump pliers, if the shape wasn’t enough, the FORGED CONTROLLED STEEL marking (belonging to J.P. Danielson) certainly is.
Bonney -ZENEL- (1935, but whoever's looking needs a magnifying glass) and Thorsen dwarfies
These hack saw blades are 1218’s (when they should be 1224’s), the 11-digit Federal Stock Number is 1950’s/KW era, and I never heard of the OEM (G.W. Griffin, Franklin, NH), but, they’re federal contract, all hard (vs flex), there’s a bunch of them (the MVMTS & GMTS specified 12), and they’re still inside their original NOS packaging (or what’s left of it!), and that’s as close as I have ever come to nailing this hard to find GMTK item.
The long-nose pliers are DIAMALLOY NN66
By now everyone recognizes the RED DEVIL putty knife with the GMTK size spec as the model number.
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The unmistakably distinctive shape gives way the maker of these GMTK water pump pliers…, as much as the “8742” AISI steel grade mark on the flip side of this DOE wrench…
…reveals that it was made by Herbrand, with a nice, crisp block letter logo and “1027C” ISN marking. Back to the water pump pliers, if the shape wasn’t enough, the FORGED CONTROLLED STEEL marking (belonging to J.P. Danielson) certainly is.
Bonney -ZENEL- (1935, but whoever's looking needs a magnifying glass) and Thorsen dwarfies
These hack saw blades are 1218’s (when they should be 1224’s), the 11-digit Federal Stock Number is 1950’s/KW era, and I never heard of the OEM (G.W. Griffin, Franklin, NH), but, they’re federal contract, all hard (vs flex), there’s a bunch of them (the MVMTS & GMTS specified 12), and they’re still inside their original NOS packaging (or what’s left of it!), and that’s as close as I have ever come to nailing this hard to find GMTK item.
The long-nose pliers are DIAMALLOY NN66
By now everyone recognizes the RED DEVIL putty knife with the GMTK size spec as the model number.
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Oh, and this “Higher Echelon” equipment somehow followed me to my truck, too…
It's all Don's fault!!
More on this tomorrow…
It's all Don's fault!!
More on this tomorrow…
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Re: Early Bird Gets the Worms
Looks good Wingnutt. I'm always a bit envious of your 'early bird'.
I'll shoot you my address again and you can just go ahead and send me those hacksaw blades... Too bad they're not 12/24. Still a nice find.
I guess I didn't know that Bonney was making ZENEL wrenches as early as '35. That's pretty cool.
What set does that giant multi tool belong to, and what's the brand on that guy?
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I'll shoot you my address again and you can just go ahead and send me those hacksaw blades... Too bad they're not 12/24. Still a nice find.
I guess I didn't know that Bonney was making ZENEL wrenches as early as '35. That's pretty cool.
What set does that giant multi tool belong to, and what's the brand on that guy?
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Jason, funny thing about those blades. They're already gone.
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please more details on the oil can. I have one like that I have used for 50 years but had no idea!
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It is, and quite instructive for me to first learn/realize a few years ago during the alloy restrictions investigation. While they never revealed the composition, they bragged that it was the strongest, lightest steel ever invented. The significance is they never dropped that branding during the war, leading me to believe they might've been ahead of the triple-alloy "NE" steel curve.mudbox wrote:I guess I didn't know that Bonney was making ZENEL wrenches as early as '35. That's pretty cool.
The brand is AIRCO. I believe they were one of dozens of companies owned by Union Carbide. The oxy-acetylene welding/cutting torch is a vintage Oxweld W-17, made by Linde, another Union Carbide company. The wrench was made for AIRCO by Billings. (It has a /B\ on the flip side.) The more modern ones are pretty common, look roughly the same, but weren't made by Billings. It's FSN 41-W-1600 and goes with the oxy-acetylene equipment that was in the 2nd Echelon Set No. 5. (If you look on combatmatt's April 45 ORD 6 thread you'll see that 2nd Echelon Sets No.3 through No. 9 were special unit level sets, like a hoist, a block and tackle, etc).mudbox wrote:What set does that giant multi tool belong to, and what's the brand on that guy?
Most of the stuff is from several different sets, although some of the items are in multiple sets. I had another decent haul today, but I'm bushed. I will post more pictures tomorrow as well as some references from the Apr 45 ORD 6 SNL G-27.
What's the joke about not having to be faster than the bear, just faster than the other campers? Around here, you have to faster than Steve.Tin Medic wrote:Jason, funny thing about those blades. They're already gone.
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Per April 1945 ORD 6 SNL G-27, 13-O-400, OILER, brass or steel, hand, trigger operated. They were issued in quantities more than 1 to every Army Ordnance Dept tool-set at 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th echelons, and the Armored Forces tool-sets (Rgt, Bn, Company and Plt). The one in the picture is steel, made by CRAFTSMAN, marked on the top of the trigger assembly, but I found a brass one today, made by PLEWS, marked in the same place. And PLEWS was cited in the US Navy Aviation Supply Office catalog Class 13 booklet as a supplier for the same oiler with the same FSN.Lew Ladwig wrote:please more details on the oil can. I have one like that I have used for 50 years but had no idea!
I will post photos and a figure from a few references tomorrow, Lew.
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I promised to post more on the “higher echelon” tools I’ve been um, influenced, (read: coerced) by Roger, Don, Henry, and perhaps others into collecting...
Reposting this picture so it’s easier to read the contents list.
Top to bottom, left to right
41-N-630, farrier’s nippers, unmarked /// Set(s): Blacksmith
41-I-700, 10-inch non-electric pyramid pt soldering iron, unmarked /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech, 2nd No. 1, 2nd No. 2, 3rd No. 1, 3rd No. 2, 4th No. 2, Armored Force
41-L-182, double lip plumbers ladle, unmarked /// Set(s): 4th No. 2
41-T-3812, oxy-acetylene torch, vintage Oxweld (Linde/Union Carbide) W-17 /// Set(s): 3rd No. 1, 4th No. 2
41-W-1600,oxy-acetylene torch wrench, AIRCO 8090028, made by Billings (/B\) /// Set(s): 2nd No. 5, 3rd No. 1, 4th No. 2
41-I-50, oxy-acetylene striker (igniter), unmarked /// Set(s): Blacksmith, Welder
41-F-3593, galvanized 2 qt. funnel with reinforced spout, unmarked /// Set(s): 3rd No. 1, 3rd No. 2, 4th No. 2
41-H-624 9 oz. riveting hammer, U.S.A. /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech, Trimmer
41-H-630 18 oz. riveting hammer, unmarked /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech
41-H-641, 2-inch dia. rubber hammer, unmarked /// Set(s): Battery Mech
41-S-4547, 12-inch No. 4 machinists’ square, STANLEY No. 21 PAT 196495 (1931), needs some TLC /// Set(s): Machinist
13-O-400, brass or steel (this one is steel) trigger type oiler, CRAFTSMAN (early 50's logo) /// Set(s): Every 2nd, 3rd, and 4th echelon and Armored Forces set
Some zooms:
Reposting this picture so it’s easier to read the contents list.
Top to bottom, left to right
41-N-630, farrier’s nippers, unmarked /// Set(s): Blacksmith
41-I-700, 10-inch non-electric pyramid pt soldering iron, unmarked /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech, 2nd No. 1, 2nd No. 2, 3rd No. 1, 3rd No. 2, 4th No. 2, Armored Force
41-L-182, double lip plumbers ladle, unmarked /// Set(s): 4th No. 2
41-T-3812, oxy-acetylene torch, vintage Oxweld (Linde/Union Carbide) W-17 /// Set(s): 3rd No. 1, 4th No. 2
41-W-1600,oxy-acetylene torch wrench, AIRCO 8090028, made by Billings (/B\) /// Set(s): 2nd No. 5, 3rd No. 1, 4th No. 2
41-I-50, oxy-acetylene striker (igniter), unmarked /// Set(s): Blacksmith, Welder
41-F-3593, galvanized 2 qt. funnel with reinforced spout, unmarked /// Set(s): 3rd No. 1, 3rd No. 2, 4th No. 2
41-H-624 9 oz. riveting hammer, U.S.A. /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech, Trimmer
41-H-630 18 oz. riveting hammer, unmarked /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech
41-H-641, 2-inch dia. rubber hammer, unmarked /// Set(s): Battery Mech
41-S-4547, 12-inch No. 4 machinists’ square, STANLEY No. 21 PAT 196495 (1931), needs some TLC /// Set(s): Machinist
13-O-400, brass or steel (this one is steel) trigger type oiler, CRAFTSMAN (early 50's logo) /// Set(s): Every 2nd, 3rd, and 4th echelon and Armored Forces set
Some zooms:
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And here is the weekend haul!
Left to right, top to bottom:
“MAYHEW 10-32” 8-inch long drive-pin punch (3/8” tip) (not a GMTK or Higher Echelon tool)
41-H-630, 18 oz. riveting hammer, wartime underline CRAFTSMAN logo /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech
41-H-641, 2-inch dia. rubber hammer, unmarked /// Set(s): Battery Mech
13-O-400, brass or steel (this one is brass) trigger type oiler, makred “PLEWS” (note that this is the mfgr in the Class 41 catalog) /// Set(s): Every 2nd, 3rd, and 4th echelon and Armored Forces set
KRAEUTER 7/8-inch cutting punch (not a GMTK or Higher Echelon tool, but I was gong from mental image of the RAPD figure, and I wasn’t sure what the correct cutting size was until I got home)
41-P-3353, 1/2-inch cutting punch, marked (B? M Co) /// Set(s): Trimmer’s (luckily, this one was the correct cutting size!)
41-P-1890, 7-inch battery terminal pliers, “BONNEY MADE IN U.S.A. B20” /// Set(s): Battery Mech, Ignition Mech, and all Armored Force sets
41-P-1572, snap ring pliers, marked “WALDES TRUARC No. 4” (probably 1950’s vintage) /// Set(s): 2nd No 2, 3rd No. 1, 4th No. 2, and all Armored Force sets
41-S-5416, unmounted sharpening stone, combo coarse/fine grit, 1 x 2 x 8, in an original Champion box /// Set(s): Machinist’s, Trimmer’s, 2nd No. 1, and 2nd No. 2
Pickerupper tool, marked “AIRCRAFT SPEC, INC. / TL-506/U / LAPEER, MICH.”
41-S-2813, 12-inch tinners’ shears, straight cut, vintage-perfect “CRESCENT No. S411” /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech, 2nd No. 1, 2nd No. 2, and Armored Force sets
“DISSTON” ignition file (not a GMTK or Higher Echelon tool)
“WRIGHT 80225” obstruction wrench (not a GMTK or Higher Echelon tool)
Originally, a GMTK-spec “HERBRAND VAN-CHROME No. 86” 5/16 (15*) x 9/32 (60*) ignition wrench, that Bubba turned into a single open end 5/16” 15* angle wrench
Vlchek Chrome-Molybdenum 723
(Missing from pic: BLUE-POINT No. 1214 (I can’t remember if this is before the “Supreme” line (1930’s) or after (1950’s))
Possible 41-G-411-6, 26-leaf gage (range 0.0015 to 0.025) marked “BALDWIN No. 222 RB Co” (unknown mfgr) /// Set(s): Ignition Mech
Spoon
DURO-CHROME “G” code “1640” 1/2-inch drive 12 point 1-1/4” socket. (I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one before. And notice that the construction is tapered thick wall, and the knurling is cross-hatched, not ribbed, suggesting that Duro-Chrome’s “G” contract stuff was made fairly early, not only late.)
“-D-I-” “1230” 1/2-inch drive 12 point 15/16” socket, ribbed knurling
“-D-I-”1/4-drive 12 point 5/16” socket, cross-hatch knurling
Some zooms:
(Sorry in advance..., it was a gorgeous day and I went photo crazy...)
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Left to right, top to bottom:
“MAYHEW 10-32” 8-inch long drive-pin punch (3/8” tip) (not a GMTK or Higher Echelon tool)
41-H-630, 18 oz. riveting hammer, wartime underline CRAFTSMAN logo /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech
41-H-641, 2-inch dia. rubber hammer, unmarked /// Set(s): Battery Mech
13-O-400, brass or steel (this one is brass) trigger type oiler, makred “PLEWS” (note that this is the mfgr in the Class 41 catalog) /// Set(s): Every 2nd, 3rd, and 4th echelon and Armored Forces set
KRAEUTER 7/8-inch cutting punch (not a GMTK or Higher Echelon tool, but I was gong from mental image of the RAPD figure, and I wasn’t sure what the correct cutting size was until I got home)
41-P-3353, 1/2-inch cutting punch, marked (B? M Co) /// Set(s): Trimmer’s (luckily, this one was the correct cutting size!)
41-P-1890, 7-inch battery terminal pliers, “BONNEY MADE IN U.S.A. B20” /// Set(s): Battery Mech, Ignition Mech, and all Armored Force sets
41-P-1572, snap ring pliers, marked “WALDES TRUARC No. 4” (probably 1950’s vintage) /// Set(s): 2nd No 2, 3rd No. 1, 4th No. 2, and all Armored Force sets
41-S-5416, unmounted sharpening stone, combo coarse/fine grit, 1 x 2 x 8, in an original Champion box /// Set(s): Machinist’s, Trimmer’s, 2nd No. 1, and 2nd No. 2
Pickerupper tool, marked “AIRCRAFT SPEC, INC. / TL-506/U / LAPEER, MICH.”
41-S-2813, 12-inch tinners’ shears, straight cut, vintage-perfect “CRESCENT No. S411” /// Set(s): Sheet Metal/Radiator Mech, 2nd No. 1, 2nd No. 2, and Armored Force sets
“DISSTON” ignition file (not a GMTK or Higher Echelon tool)
“WRIGHT 80225” obstruction wrench (not a GMTK or Higher Echelon tool)
Originally, a GMTK-spec “HERBRAND VAN-CHROME No. 86” 5/16 (15*) x 9/32 (60*) ignition wrench, that Bubba turned into a single open end 5/16” 15* angle wrench
Vlchek Chrome-Molybdenum 723
(Missing from pic: BLUE-POINT No. 1214 (I can’t remember if this is before the “Supreme” line (1930’s) or after (1950’s))
Possible 41-G-411-6, 26-leaf gage (range 0.0015 to 0.025) marked “BALDWIN No. 222 RB Co” (unknown mfgr) /// Set(s): Ignition Mech
Spoon
DURO-CHROME “G” code “1640” 1/2-inch drive 12 point 1-1/4” socket. (I’m not sure I’ve ever seen one before. And notice that the construction is tapered thick wall, and the knurling is cross-hatched, not ribbed, suggesting that Duro-Chrome’s “G” contract stuff was made fairly early, not only late.)
“-D-I-” “1230” 1/2-inch drive 12 point 15/16” socket, ribbed knurling
“-D-I-”1/4-drive 12 point 5/16” socket, cross-hatch knurling
Some zooms:
(Sorry in advance..., it was a gorgeous day and I went photo crazy...)
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A low quantity but VERY high quality day at the “Early Bird” this morning…
Top to bottom:
- Plomb 5461 5-inch long 1/2-inch drive extension with a hole for a crank bar (Wartime GMTK, USN ASO Class 41, etc)
- Unknown DURO-CHROME 2367 bar. My best guess is some kind of yoke or separator. Looks like 1950’s to me.
- Wartime Bonney T35 3/8-inch drive reversible ratchet. No date code, but they started making this in 1939 and it’s natural steel finish. The action is outstanding. (Part of the Bonney Master Mechanics tool-set in the G-61 Emergency Repair Truck kit.)
- Wartime Bonney 2680 brake spring pliers (41-P-1579, many upper echelon tool-sets)
- Vintage Armstrong 79-493, 79-495, and 79-496 set-up wedges. (Still looking through Class 40. Similar to drill drifts, which are listed.)
Zooms:
Plomb 5461 ext and Duro 2367 bar
Bonney T35 ratchet
Here’s an image of the ratchet in RAPD figure 35693 in the SNL G-61 for the Emergency Repair Truck
Bonney 2680 brake spring pliers
Here’s more on the Bonney 2680 brake spring pliers…
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Top to bottom:
- Plomb 5461 5-inch long 1/2-inch drive extension with a hole for a crank bar (Wartime GMTK, USN ASO Class 41, etc)
- Unknown DURO-CHROME 2367 bar. My best guess is some kind of yoke or separator. Looks like 1950’s to me.
- Wartime Bonney T35 3/8-inch drive reversible ratchet. No date code, but they started making this in 1939 and it’s natural steel finish. The action is outstanding. (Part of the Bonney Master Mechanics tool-set in the G-61 Emergency Repair Truck kit.)
- Wartime Bonney 2680 brake spring pliers (41-P-1579, many upper echelon tool-sets)
- Vintage Armstrong 79-493, 79-495, and 79-496 set-up wedges. (Still looking through Class 40. Similar to drill drifts, which are listed.)
Zooms:
Plomb 5461 ext and Duro 2367 bar
Bonney T35 ratchet
Here’s an image of the ratchet in RAPD figure 35693 in the SNL G-61 for the Emergency Repair Truck
Bonney 2680 brake spring pliers
Here’s more on the Bonney 2680 brake spring pliers…
EVERYTHING IS ALWAYS FOR SALE. PM ME.
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Plomb extension is SOLD.
Dave King has first right of refusal on T35 ratchet.
Dave King has first right of refusal on T35 ratchet.
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I've always called it a 'pickle fork' and have used them on pitman arms and tie rod ends, that type of thing. Personally, I felt that they could always be longer.Wingnutt wrote:- Unknown DURO-CHROME 2367 bar. My best guess is some kind of yoke or separator. Looks like 1950’s to me.
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Definitely like a pickle fork, mud. This thing is not going to break, I'll tell you that.
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