ww2 Extingusure hazard

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ww2 Extingusure hazard

Post by Jeep1942 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:19 pm

Ok my 1945 ford gpw has its original factory brass extinguisher which has never been used and still has factory liquid inside. I have read these are a major health concern. What should i do? Also should i polish or not.
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Post by lucas » Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:21 pm

For my research>>>Who is the manufacturer?….no paint on it at all? metal (brass?) data plate or decal?
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Post by lt.luke » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:22 am

Look to see if there's a hazardous materials dump or acceptance location in your area. If there is, empty it into a container and take it there. I don't think I'd open it to clean it.

Polishing it shouldn't hurt.

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Post by Joe Gopan » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:21 am

If you are considering going to a hazardous material disposal place, take the whole fire extinguisher, an open container in your vehicle or trunk could render you unconscious, do not use a plastic bottle which may dissolve. Most of the fluids used were a Carbon Tetrachloride derivative, it is toxic. Emptying it in a gravel pit is a good solution, it will evaporate.
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Post by Marty, SoCal » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:17 am

If it still pumps in the normal manner, just use it as it's intended. If it has not leaked in 65+ years, I doubt it will leak anytime soon. Carbon Tet will still put out fires just fine. If you spray it in a paper bag and start huffing it, it might be a problem :wink:
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Post by Donovan » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:49 pm

Do not empty into a gravel pit!
You can put the material into a glass or steel container (like an empty paint can you can buy at the hardware store) mark it with carbon tetrachloride with a ? At the end and take to a community hazardous waste disposal drop off place.

Dumping it on the ground is illegal and it does not evaporate! It can leach down in the groundwater, be re mobilized and into surface water, or could be dug up later by someone and exposing them to the chemical Joel thought would evaporate! Very bad idea!

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Post by Joe Gopan » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:57 pm

Carbon Tetrachloride does evaporate readily but can be very dangerous to one's health.
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Post by lt.luke » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:42 pm

Straight off the MSDS:

"Carbon tet evaporates quickly and is heavier than water. If carbon tet is spilled in lakes or streams, most of it sinks. If spilled on soil, most of the chemical will evaporate and the vapors will gather near the ground surface."

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Post by W. Winget » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:58 am

So put it in a paint can, put an old rag in it to assist in surface area and set it somewhere where the sun can shine on it, no animals can drink it and let it evaporate for a week/month/year then throw out the paint can in the trash.
I'm with keeping it intack, the one in my Command Car has been fine for 20 years. Had a friend get their camp stove blazing in a runaway burn a few years back at Aberdeen show and someone rushed over with a WWII one and shot it out. Worked fine, everyones still alive, and Aberdeen is still drinking their water.
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Post by Jeep1942 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:42 am

Looks like im sticking with leaving it alone.
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Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:54 am

The best solution is to save it for use, it does a good job snuffing out fires when needed, it might save your Jeep or someones' life. It is not good to breathe the concentrated fumes, and prolonged skin contact is not healthy. We used safely in testing labs for paving materials and petroleum products for decades and no one got hurt.
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Re: ww2 Extingusure hazard

Post by Jeep1942 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:42 pm

good news bad news :D

i went to garage to my plastic storage bin where my nos/new/used parts are for my 45 ford project to dig up extinguisher to examine patents and i found it.

Bad news is it is still heavy but i no longer hear the liquid when i sway side to side. I guess it evaporated, no traces of leaks or resedue in the ziplock it was in.
1945 FORD GPW 269248 MATCHING, DOD 5-9-45/ CRATED 5-10-45 HOOD #20734234 Confirmed by TOM W.
(UNDER RESTORATION) viewtopic.php?f=144&t=242004
1945 WILLYS MB MOTORPOOL RESTORATION Completed Dec 2013
1943 Bantam Trailer DOD 1-14-43 Serial 9926 (UNDER RESTORATION.
1942 Slat grille serial Mb-121505 R.I.P


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