Schwarze Horn
- Kearney99
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Schwarze Horn
Ok the price of horns is getting a bit on the ridiculous side.
So I did some online shopping.
Found this on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWN%3AIT
It appears to be a Schwarze horn that would be correct for a Jeep. Looks like a different mounting bracket, but when compared to the pics on BobN's website, (Supplied by Richard Grace) This horn appears to be correct.
Anyone comment?
So I did some online shopping.
Found this on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWN%3AIT
It appears to be a Schwarze horn that would be correct for a Jeep. Looks like a different mounting bracket, but when compared to the pics on BobN's website, (Supplied by Richard Grace) This horn appears to be correct.
Anyone comment?
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Hi Kearney,
It is difficult to see the length of the trumpet from the angle the pics were taken. It looks like it could well be MB correct, althought the mounting spring is missing. They are available. Note, Schwarze horns were MB only, not GPW.
Best regards
Al
It is difficult to see the length of the trumpet from the angle the pics were taken. It looks like it could well be MB correct, althought the mounting spring is missing. They are available. Note, Schwarze horns were MB only, not GPW.
Best regards
Al
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Thanks Al.
Im pretty sure its the real McCoy. Does anyone have any decent pics of how its supposed to be mounted?
What does the mount look like?
Is it something I can fabricate?
Ill know for sure once I get it in the mail.
Hey, 10 bucks + shipping sure beats the heck out of 150 bucks.
A little creative searching goes a long way.
Kevin
Im pretty sure its the real McCoy. Does anyone have any decent pics of how its supposed to be mounted?
What does the mount look like?
Is it something I can fabricate?
Ill know for sure once I get it in the mail.
Hey, 10 bucks + shipping sure beats the heck out of 150 bucks.
A little creative searching goes a long way.
Kevin
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Kevin, I figure you should be looking for one not unlike this ....
Jon
Sparton is more a rams horn shape....
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Sparton is more a rams horn shape....
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You wouldnt by chance had a drawing of that, so I can fabricate it, would you?
KK
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Sorry mate..... can't help on that one........
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Hi Kevin,Kearney99 wrote:You wouldnt by chance had a drawing of that, so I can fabricate it, would you?
KK
The spring is not a part that is practical to make. It has four leaves of very thin spring steel and other special parts. I suggest you buy one of a dealer.
Best regards
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I have seen a LOT of 45 Willys MB`s with the short type horn. This have been debated earlyer, but no one have found any proof. Do you have any pictures ore manuals that show`s the long WWII type horn used on the CJ`s? Please e-mail me ore post here if you have any info.Oakes wrote:Both WWll jeep horns were also used on the very earliest 2A's too and I bet the CJ2's.
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Oakes wrote:Both WWll jeep horns were also used on the very earliest 2A's too and I bet the CJ2's.
Hi Frank:Frank wrote:I have seen a LOT of 45 Willys MB`s with the short type horn. This has been debated earlier, but no one has found any proof. Do you have any pictures or manuals that show the long WWII type horn used on the CJ`s? Please e-mail me or post here if you have any info. Best Regards, Frank
The 1945 First Edition CJ-2A Parts List on page 49 states the A-1312 horn assembly and A-1389 bracket were used on the first 3,888 CJ-2A trucks, after which the A-17715 horn and A-17716 bracket were used. The CJ-2A wiring diagram on page 45 shows a short trumpet horn and lists it as WO # A-17715, a very late WW II part number that per the LOPN is either an Auto-Lite # HA-033 or a Sparton B-10539 six volt horn.
I imagine many late 1945 MB jeeps not used in Operation Olympic were later sent to Europe under the Marshall Plan, and I further suspect some of these used the A-17715 short trumpet horn instead of the A-1312 long trumpet horn, as verified by your observations.
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So, would my January 20, 1943 MB be out of character with a Schwarze horn?
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