MB 217462 DOD

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MB 217462 DOD

Post by Bart1015 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:21 am

Hello all,

I have MB 217462 that is missing the data plates and hood numbers.

I searched the G503 database and found the closest I could find was MB217048, with a DOD of 3-8-1943

I have an initial hood number of 20319086 that I obtained from the Classic Military Automotive "hood number Estimator' link.

I am now at the point to order data plates and stencils.

Does anyone have any better information that I could use to determine a closer or more accurate DOD and/or hood number?

Thanks,

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Re: MB 217462 DOD

Post by sjalbert » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:10 am

I think you're spot on with the DOD. You're hood number appears to be a little off. I've got the following in my database:

S/N 217454, DOD 3/8/1943, Hood # 20310334 S, source link: http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=224584

My recollection after reviewing his thread is that he found that hood number on the Jeep.
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Re: MB 217462 DOD

Post by Bart1015 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:56 pm

Sjalbert,

Thank you very much. That really helps me.

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Post by Ralph » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:12 pm

Brett,
Here is the hood number revealed from MB217454
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Post by Bart1015 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:26 pm

Thanks Ralph,

I just finished reading your thread on that jeep. You did a great job. It is wonderful you had documented the process like you did. It sure is a great reference.

My jeep was also OD, powder blue, then orange.

Your tub looked just just like mine prior to your restoration. Its like they were painted together by the same poorly skilled kid.

Mine had been rebuilt at sometime in the service. Axels, T-case, and other misc. parts are GPW. The trans is MB and looks to be dated correct. Engine is CJ but I have a close match MB engine that I would like to drop in at sometime.

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Post by Ralph » Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:29 am

Thanks Bart,
That hood number pic was one of many that have been lost on the thread over the years for some reason.I have hundreds more if you need a reference.Mine now has a new owner who is taking the restoration a little further.
Eight numbers apart on the line,pretty cool.Does yours have the fuel can stiffener plate on the rear panel?
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Post by Bart1015 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:18 am

Ralph,

Mine does have the fuel can stiffener plate. It also has the vertical reinforcement brackets at the wheel wells. They are welded in, no evidence of ever being bolt to the tub.

The body I have is in great shape. There is no rust and very minor dents. My son is an autobody guy by trade and he is doing the prep for me. Its killing him to leave the sport welds and other imperfections alone. I do however need to replace portions of the tranny hump. It was cut with a torch in order to stuff a 6 cyl engine it.

The rolling frame and running gear is done. Just waiting on the weather to do a finial coat of OD on the entire assembly.

Thanks again,

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Post by Ralph » Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:29 am

Bart that is pretty interesting-the books by the research gurus have it right at those numbers for that plate's first production appearance...within 8 units...
217454 had the welded supports also. Great to have a body man in the family.You'd better keep an eye on him or you'll find a big roll bar over your head.That tranny hump will give him a challenge... :D Hope to see som pics of yours at some point. Thanks
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Re: MB 217462 DOD

Post by Carolinamv » Sat Nov 11, 2017 12:50 pm

Brett , Where are you located?
MB 217454 DOD 8 March 43 ACM 118981 USA 20310334, S on cowl -Fully Matching MB-
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Post by Bart1015 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:11 am

Carolinamv,

I just noticed you asked where I was located. I am in Sonoma County, California.

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Re: MB 217462 DOD

Post by Michael O. » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:33 pm

Bart1015 wrote:
Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:21 am
I have an initial hood number of 20319086 that I obtained from the Classic Military Automotive "hood number Estimator' link.
Brett....my advice to you and everyone else is to never rely on the “hood number estimator”. It’s very inaccurate and the numbers generated are all over the place!

You’re fortunate to have factual information from a vehicle that’s only 8 digits numerically apart from yours. Even given the fact that these vehicles did not roll off the line or were “accepted” in serial number order, you can certainly figure a registration number very close to what your actual number was.
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Re: MB 217462 DOD

Post by tamnalan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:40 am

My MB tub (103943) has those three plates welded in too. My MB's frame # is 201453. The DOD was missing but I guessed 8 Jan '43.
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Post by Bart1015 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:00 am

Michael,

I totally agree. That is why I posted the question here.

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Re: MB 217462 DOD

Post by ghiltgen » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:49 am

I have used a linear regression analysis to get very close to to true DoD. How it works: make a graph of Serial number on one axis, then DOD one the other. I have found one gets a very straight line which has a very high correlation coeffient (math term that means that there is a linear relationship between DOD and Sn). Now you can easily get your DOD based on the Serial number. It more accurate if I use data from known jeeps that were made about the same time yours was. For example if I use jeep data from 1942 and 1944 the accuracy won't be as good. I'll use seven known jeeps from 1/43 thru 5/43 to call you jeeps DOD. I'll post it in couple minutes
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Re: MB 217462 DOD

Post by ghiltgen » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:20 am

I calculated your DOD as March 10 1943, day 69 of 1943
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