A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

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A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by Charlie S. » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:03 am

Hi,
which is the total length of part A-619 / GPW-3304 ?
Your comment would be appreciated.
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by r40ford » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:07 am

Charlie,
The drag link A-619 is 22 3/4"+/- long.
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by Joe Friday » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:04 am

between 22-31/64 and 22-39/64 if produced after 5/6/41
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by Chuck Lutz » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:30 am

Charlie...when installed you should have the front zerk pointing towards the L/F tire and the rear zerk pointing down towards the ground. This is one of the places that cause sloppy steering...not properly adjusted when installed or, as my jeep came to me....with a broken spring in it!
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Post by 1947cj2 » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:54 am

That and I would add that attention needs to be paid to the ball ends of the Bellcrank and the pittman arm. I have seen them egg shaped and this can make for real problems as well, Alan.
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by Chuck Lutz » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:39 am

Yep...when egg-shaped you don't get a smooth, tight steering radius either. I can't speak about the bellcranks as i haven't had to replace one, but I did replace the pitman arm with a CROWN and you can't even get that POS onto the Sector Shaft that CROWN makes! A total POS! Their Sector Shaft splines are not cut right so you can't seat het pitman arm where it should be. O thers who have rebuilttheir steering boxes with CROWN parts are easy to spot....their pitman arm won't seat right either!
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by Joe Gopan » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:24 am

The ball end of the Pitman Arm and on Bell Crank are not necessarily unserviceable if they are slightly "egg shape" as the balls do not operate in a full circle and only travel a limited arc. As long as they seat securely in the cups of the drag link, some wear is OK.
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by Chuck Lutz » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:58 am

I would certainly agree with Joel that a little wear is acceptable...if you found an "edge" you could remove that also....replacing the pitman arm and bellcrank are a pain so if they show only a little bit of wear...don't bother to replace. leaking steering box as opposed to one completely worn out can be remedied with some maintenance....maybe a new oil seal on the pitman arm, a new gasket on the cover with the proper two copper crush washers and some clean 90 wt. will stop the leaking.

Over filling with grease that goes up the steering tube and leaks out around the steering wheel or where the contact is attached to the steering tube when it gets HOT is another source of the leak.
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by Charlie S. » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:10 am

Hi Guys.
Tks a lot for your interesting comments.
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by onaway » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:06 am

I have a question about the Steering Connecting rod and the TMs. I am confused on the TM instructions or maybe I am missing something

Are the the instructions incorrect and/or is the illustration reversed? If you place the front of the arm so the grease fitting is facing the left tire (as mentioned earlier in this thread) the photo and instructions are reversed.

From TM-10-1513 (I have broken the paragraph up)

The steering connecting rod is the ball and socket type.

At front or axle end, the spring and spacer are assembled
between rod (bottom of socket) and ball seat

while at the steering gear end, spring and spacer are between balls and end plug.


If you look at the illustration below the end circled in red seems to be reversed..
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I appreciate your help.

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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by onaway » Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:40 pm

any input anyone? Bueller?....Bueller?
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by Chuck Lutz » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:16 pm

Pretend you are standing on the LEFT side of the jeep then the drawing is correct. The end with the zerk to the tire is at the front and the end at the pitman arm is on the bottom.

PS...you MUST assemble the parts in that order as they are different for each end!
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Re: A-619 STEERING CONNECTING ROD

Post by onaway » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:55 am

Chuck,

You are correct i think i should have slept on it before posting. I spent too much time in the yard...

Thanks again,

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