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Fuel Tank Stone Guards more clarification

Postby thidisbogus » Sat Jul 21, 2012 5:55 pm

Were these factory installed or a field modification?
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Re: Fuel Tank Stone Guards

Postby Chuck Lutz » Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:54 pm

The fuel tankwell is a factory installed item the tank sits in. The only metal "stone guards" I am aware of are fastened to the REAR shock absorbers.

Under the driver's seat you install the RUBBER guards Ron sells keep crud out of the tankwell...
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Re: Fuel Tank Stone Guards

Postby thidisbogus » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:13 pm

Thanks so much for writing back Chuck! What I am referring to are those two metal rectangular pieces people weld onto the sump. Being as you purchase them separately and attach them to the sump, I figured they were a field mod and some did not have them?
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Re: Fuel Tank Stone Guards

Postby Bill M » Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:50 pm

Production line fitment.


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Willys factory line photo.

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Re: Fuel Tank Stone Guards

Postby thidisbogus » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:25 pm

I don't think we are on the same page. Here are the stone guards I am referring to:

https://www.vintagejeeps.com/pc-254-40- ... 0-02k.aspx

Were these factory installed or a field mod?

I also have the felt seal kit:

https://www.vintagejeeps.com/pc-1069-40 ... 0-03k.aspx

Are these dependent on each other to work? In other words do I attach the felt seals to the stone guards or simply attach them to the sides of the sump? Any direction on this is really appreciated. Any photos would also really be appreciated.

One other question, if I were to attach the stone guards, do I have to weld them or can I use sheet metal screws or something? I just dread doing any more welding.
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Re: Fuel Tank Stone Guards more clarification

Postby yorkshireman » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:43 pm

Im 99% sure they were factory installed,and were welded,the rear one was spot welded,and has usually rotted away..
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Re: Fuel Tank Stone Guards more clarification

Postby nick peters » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:31 pm

Hey Rodney
Chris(yorkshireman) is correct, as far as im aware. They were factory fitted, and yes you really do need to get your welder out to spot weld them into place. (quicker than trying to drill and then put screws in) :roll: Your felt stoppers will then be raised above floor level,when you slide them in.
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Re: Fuel Tank Stone Guards more clarification

Postby thidisbogus » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:11 pm

Thanks for the replies all!

I got the rear one mounted, but I am having difficulty figuring out how the one is supposed to mount right below the side hat channel where the fuel tank straps clip to. Are there any photos of that particular mounting any one can post?
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Re: Fuel Tank Stone Guards more clarification

Postby yorkshireman » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:23 am

The side piece is part of the tank well,it is flush with the inner face of the tank well,it lines up with the corner of the front lip that pokes up about an inch from the front floor level,then runs down the side to the rear one you have just fitted,so when it is fitted it looks like you have an edge running round 3 sides of the well to stop things falling in the tank well,i dont know how to upload pictures,sorry...chris
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