can anyone identify my jeep body???

[1943gpw wc53]

I have a 1945 ( I THINK ) gpw body but not really sure as some people are thinking its a Hotchkiss body... I am wondering if anyone can identify which body i have... If you need more pics of anything to help you let me know, thanks

[1943gpw wc53]

Also wondering what these 4 holes in the fire wall are for. Thanks in advance!!!!

[petersav]

The body in the pictures is a hotchkiss

[Bill M]

I concur the tub is Hotchkiss or part thereof because of these reasons,
The holes are not punched for the side door sockets (some Hotchkiss have this)
The notch in the dash panel looks irregular and not punched out mechanically.
As pointed out by other members the Hotchkiss number where a fuel filter fits.
The captive nuts look different to the standard ones I am familiar with.
The inside foot well gusset appears to be angular unlike the curve on ACM and Ford manufactured bodies.

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Having said that a Hotchkiss tub is the best non original tub that is affordable.
cheers
Bill.

[1943gpw wc53]

Well I just talked to the man I purchased the jeep from this spring and when he bought the jeep he took it along with a few other jeeps to his body man and told him to put the best looking body on this frame.. So now I know where the hotchkiss tub came from.. Thanks for all your guys help... can you guys identify what the four holes are for on the fire wall?? also is there a posting somewhere on here that shows where the correct holes should be for a gpw? thanks again

[Bill M]

Regarding the holes you mention, usually for the suppression radio filterette. On my early ACM II tub they are holes not captive nuts as the filterette is bolted with bolts & nuts. I am not sure whether the French tub would have them.
The holes were a deleted item on later ACM II tubs but I am not sure of the timeline for this.
Other members who are up to scratch with late GPWs can enlighten us both.
cheers
Bill.

[Tom Wolboldt]

The original driver's side body gusset was grafted onto the Hotchkiss body and a cut out was made in the cowl overlap to pass the body off as a WW2 one. Your GPW did not have a radio filterette. I don't know what the French would have bolted into the four mystery holes.

The plus side is you have a jeep body that is in better condition then most in this country.

[wjohn]

Regarding the holes you mention, usually for the suppression radio filterette. On my early ACM II tub they are holes not captive nuts as the filterette is bolted with bolts & nuts. I am not sure whether the French tub would have them.
The holes were a deleted item on later ACM II tubs but I am not sure of the timeline for this.

Bill.

Bill et al,

The ACM 2 bodies have four knock out plugs where the Filter is fitted. On Late ACM2 MBs with Type 2 suppression, there is no dash mounted filter, and the four knockouts are still in place.

Also note that the Junction Block (2 terminal) have captive studs on the ACM2 body, and the French body does not.

I'd also guess the filter is much smaller, too....

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[lucakiki]

I obviously agree on the tub being an Hotchkiss tub, but I would say that also the drivers side gusset is French, regardless of numbers having been stamped on it to disguise it as an ACM made tub.*This is the problem with french tubs: turning them into undetectable ACM lookalikes is very time consuming, and requires anyway some original parts from a donor tub.
Detecting the French accent on restored jeeps has always been a popular game among Italian military jeep freaks.


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This picture ,borrowed on this very site, shows a real ACM stamping. Note the difference on the 2, for instance.

[Navarre]

Hello.

Of course as has been said, it is a WOF (Willys Overland France) body tried to be modified to MB standard...with no too many luck.
Anyway who did the job filled the hole for the starter button between de panel lights, he did the rectangular cut in the metal sheet over the dash and badly curved with pliers the body reinforcements.
I´m doing the same job in my WOF body at the moment but a little bit better.

The four unidentified holes in the firewall are for the voltage regulator...remember thay had to relocate regulator and air filter in order to make room for the second battery (24V).

Here you can see the regulator´s location (left)


Regards from Spain