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[artificer]

Wasn't there an ohm meter check?

[drumyn39]

Wasn't there an ohm meter check?

My ohm meter is broken and I have a new one coming in the mail, it'll be here thursday.

I have had my charger on for 24 hours, when I try to start it again, should I polarize the Genny?

[artificer]

One thing @ a time.
Get the vehicle's engine running properly first.

[drumyn39]

Yes, the two guys above pointed you to the problem, and you wrote it out yourself: "#1 piston was at the top of it's stroke and from what I remember #1 exhaust and #1 intake valves where open, THATS when I chose where I wanted my #1 spark plug to be".
You want the plug to fire when the valves are closed, not open; I am sure you realize that. You can pull the oil pump and re-time your distributor to make that happen. It is common on jeeps; one reason I like the Dodge setup; the distributor shaft is offset so you can't install it backwards.

OOPS, I meant #1 closed, not open.

[fernando mendes]

"I guess the big question is, how do I find TDC?"

1)Withdraw the #4 spark plug,
2)With a flashlight(MINI MAGLITE-AA)more easy to identify #4 cylinder exhaust valve(minor),turn the engine with wrench(not crank) untill it has almost CLOSING and after intake valve(major) begining to OPEN(valve balance).This is the exactly moment that #4 cylinder is at the TDC(end of exhaust stroke) and #1 cylinder is at the TDC too(firing stroke).Good luck.

[fernando mendes]

Jeep MB colocação válvulas do motor e suas molas..jpg (88.46 KiB) Viewed 554 times

Motor auto Americar-Go Devil igual ao do Jeep..jpg (228.16 KiB) Viewed 554 times

[fernando mendes]

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Valve positions are front to rear: EI-IE-EI-IE
#4 cylinder exhaust valve is the last valve,near the firewall.The spark plugs are ABOVE valves.

[drumyn39]

I'm an idiot, I was looking down #1 spark plug and watching for piston to come all the way up and THATS where I thought TDC was. I forgot that IT'S NOT THE PISTON COMING UP, IT'S THE VALVE!!!!!

[artificer]

IF the distributor has been installed to the oil pump correctly as shown in the earlier link:
Timing marks should be in the window when either 1 or 4 are @ TDC.
You need to establish which one is on compression.
Cylinder 1 is @ TDC when the timing marks are in the window & cylinder 4's valves will be on the rock i.e. exhaust closing & inlet opening.

Timing marks can be 180* out if the flywheel has been installed incorrectly & that will mean either 2 or 3 would be @ TDC & again you need to establish which one is on compression.

If the distributor rotor is 180* out [by the book] the distributor cam has been installed incorrectly & that is why.

[fernando mendes]

Look what I saw now in page 63 TM10-1513:
DISTRIBUTOR OVERHAUL
To remove................
1...........................
No 1 spark plug terminal tower in distributor cap is the LOWER right hand tower at distributor cap spring clip.Starting with this tower the wires should be installed in a counter-clockwise direction 1-3-4-2.
Why LOWER?

[drumyn39]

Ok, so I found TDC using the info that you guys helped out with, A big thank you!

Here's the dilemma! After I found TDC, the motor didn't start but turned over and sounded great, however the battery dies out soon after. I charge it up and connect a 12 volt battery and turns over great, as soon as I disconnect 12 volt it doesn't turn over at all, or very sloooooow.

I took the "new" battery back to Autozone and they said it had 6 volt so I brought it straight back to my truck, connected it and NADA.

I cleaned both terminals on the battery and both ground straps from engine to frame and battery to block, should I run a wire from cab to chassis?

[fernando mendes]

Ground begins in chassis/battery(-)....ignition switch....coil....distributor....spark plugs wire....spark plugs....spark plugs/engine....engine/chassis(end).

[drumyn39]

Ok, so I found TDC using the info that you guys helped out with, A big thank you!

Here's the dilemma! After I found TDC, the motor didn't start but turned over and sounded great, however the battery dies out soon after. I charge it up and connect a 12 volt battery and turns over great, as soon as I disconnect 12 volt it doesn't turn over at all, or very sloooooow.

I took the "new" battery back to Autozone and they said it had 6 volt so I brought it straight back to my truck, connected it and NADA.

I cleaned both terminals on the battery and both ground straps from engine to frame and battery to block, should I run a wire from cab to chassis?

Ok, so it was the starter that needed a rebuild. I installed it and it turns over great, but still doesn't start, and yes i'm getting spark.

I have a question, can rotor be in any position for TDC or does it need to be exactly as the manuel says?

[artificer]

When 1 is near TDC Compression stroke the rotor must be aligned with number 1 distributor cap tab & spark plug lead.
CHECK THESE OUT:
http://www.thecj2apage.com/storage/L134 ... timing.zip
http://www.42fordgpw.com/trouble4.html

[drumyn39]

When 1 is near TDC Compression stroke the rotor must be aligned with number 1 distributor cap tab & spark plug lead.
CHECK THESE OUT:
http://www.thecj2apage.com/storage/L134 ... timing.zip
http://www.42fordgpw.com/trouble4.html

Thats whats weird, it still isn't starting. I re-installed the oil pump and aligned #1 to point towards #1 plug when at TDC, what the heck else could I be missing? I see spark, I know fuel is getting to the pump and I know that when I give a little spray of starter fluid it still does nothing. I even changed the wires to all four positions and NOTHING!!!