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artillery tool to identify

Post by julien54 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:41 am

Hello

Sorry my english is not perfect.
I think this is the suff meant to push the shell inside the cannon. There is a screw so I think it used to be a lot longer.
Do you know for which cannon it was meant with the serial number written ?

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Re: artillery tool to identify

Post by DaninNM » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:26 am

the threads appear to match the multi-piece 1.5" cleaning rods so it might be an attachment to the cleaning rods to PUSH A PROJECTILE OUT OF THE CHAMBER - Not In?!
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Re: artillery tool to identify

Post by W. Winget » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:15 am

Check out a 10.5CM German Field Cannon (as an example). It uses a seperate shell from the shell casing. In this case the rammer you have seats the projectile, then the brass shell with variable charges is inserted in the chamber, the breech closed and the gun fired.

You have a European style projectile rammer, I cannot say if it is from the German 10.5CM or another gun though without a lot of visual references to loading proceedures or a guns listed equipment. As it's shorter than the standard 10.5CM, it may be for the Self Propelled model (for example)

The US projectile 'removal' attachment is funnel shaped to avoid touching the top of the fuze, attaches to rammer staffs and enters the front of the muzzle (on very rare occasions) seen below. The 155mm US rammer end is aluminum shaped like a Donut without a center.
US Projectile removal tool:
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Why do I say European? The US tended to use aluminum tools VS the European wooden/metal products, it's green so post WWI and newer. It has an indentation in the center to avoid striking a fuze or primer should it be also used to seat a shell casing in a dirty bore. (one finds it not a good idea to hit the primer on a shell when it's not seated inside a chamber)

My German 75mm Krupp bag gun from 1893 uses a similar tool which is mounted to the carriage in travel mode.
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They demonstrate one here (not a great demo but one is shown with longer staff)
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Longer variant or one with staff attached shown on right trail in this tiny pic:
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Re: artillery tool to identify

Post by julien54 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:09 am

Thanks for answers. I thought it was US because of the number with the D first. It kinds of remind me the data numbers on US ordnance

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Re: artillery tool to identify

Post by tankbarrell » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:43 am

The US only used aluminium for gun tools post WW2. The standard rammer for 155mm howitzer and gun was a bronze four legged star shaped head that attached to the standard wooden, with bronze ends, rammer staffs. You often see the ejector used in its place. This was also bronze and looked very similar to the photo W. Winget posted.

Post war, the rammer staffs were aluminium and the flat head rammer was used, also aluminium with a rubber doughnut centre.


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Re: artillery tool to identify

Post by Alex Schmidt » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:29 am

Simillar to the loaders that came with the British used Pack howitzers I had.

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What is the biggest diameter on yours?

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Re: artillery tool to identify

Post by julien54 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:00 pm

Hello

It is 10 cm large

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