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Post by Robbby84 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:50 am

Hi guy!
I'm Rob from Italy and I'm here to tell you about my CCKW 353.
I bought it last year and now, after my Dodge restoration (http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=155494) , I started to restore it.
Part of restoration was made from last owner ( new rebuilt engine, banjos checked, frame primed, ecc ecc): me, an my father, started our work from the body: during its 67 years of life ,it was used hard and with no respect :(
Unfortunatly the last owner unpainted it totally , so I can't find original numbers or any simbols.But he told me that he found this numbers on hood:

41 8 6105 ( number eight had a circle all around, diameter 3", other numbers height 4")

There was the broken circle star , also, on the hood.

There was, I don't know where exactly, these letters:

CO FT
1097
WT 10100

Anyone could tell me something about these letters/numbers and hood's numbers???
If you try to put "CO FT" on google, it says " Commanding Oficers": what does it means?

Thank you guys.
And now, some pics of GMC:
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Post by Joe Gopan » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:39 am

The "CO FT" could be cu. ft."
the "WT" could translate to weight. It may have ben stenciled on the truck as part of the shipping data.
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Post by backsink » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:35 pm

Before I saw jeep mechanic's post above, the same thought occurred to me about "cu ft". That reference would complement the weight notation.

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Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:42 pm

Looks like Roberto is enjoying a smooth ride in his cab. It will be quite different when it is operational.
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Post by Robbby84 » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:16 pm

Thank you! :D :D
So we found that are shipping stencils. But, what about the hood's number?? And what about this:

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In these sunny days (in Italy 8) ) I painted completly frame and axles.Some pics:

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Post by BillyClanton » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:11 am

Those little dome-shaped slots in the stake pockets mean that it's a European bed, I think. Its lookin' good. Wish mine was that far along.
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Post by Robbby84 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:28 am

Hi Billy,
probably the cargo bed was used by french army or switzerland. I have already welded iron dome-shaped to clese these holes :wink:

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Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:06 am

The body does exhibit the characteristics of a Post War European body.
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Post by Robbby84 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:11 pm

Hi Ben,

except the half-holes, what are main differences between a WAR cargo bed and a POST-WAR cargo bed?

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Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:44 pm

The Cross members that support the floor, the tie down hooks are stamped on the replacement body, also thethickness of the metal is consistant with the metric system and not quite the same Guage thickness as those from Bud and Heil. Tie down hooks on early syeel body were forged, and those on composite were wire type (made of bent rod) there are more differences, but that is all I can think of at the moment. Note the half round holes on your body, they a smmetrical and clean cut as opposed to the rough cut mods that were done mostly by post war users. The mod is not strictly post war tho, as there is mention of venting yje stale pockets in WWII Ordnance Dept. literature.
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Post by Hammerhead » Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:36 am

Hi Robby,
The restoration you and your father did on the Dodge was incredible and deserves the highest praise! I see you are coming along well with the restoration of your CCKW now! I know you guys will do just as great a job on this vehicle too. Please keep posting pictures of your ongoing restoration!!
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Post by Jeroen Sleijpen » Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:12 am

Ben Dover wrote:The Cross members that support the floor, the tie down hooks are stamped on the replacement body, also thethickness of the metal is consistant with the metric system and not quite the same Guage thickness as those from Bud and Heil. Tie down hooks on early syeel body were forged, and those on composite were wire type (made of bent rod) there are more differences, but that is all I can think of at the moment. Note the half round holes on your body, they a smmetrical and clean cut as opposed to the rough cut mods that were done mostly by post war users. The mod is not strictly post war tho, as there is mention of venting yje stale pockets in WWII Ordnance Dept. literature.
Most wartime modifications on the stake pockets where made with torches... So no clean cuts.
One other thing that is different on the German made Th. Klatte cargo bodies is the hinge of the tail gate. Wartime uses a one piece round metal bar while the german post war version used 2 pieces.
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Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:05 am

And these post war features can be noted on many of the trucks in the CCKW books we collectors all enjoy.
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Post by Jeroen Sleijpen » Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:52 am

Most CCKW's in Europe, got their original beaten up wood or steel cargo beds replaced by new ones, mainly build by TH. Klatte in Germany.
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Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:20 pm

And the quickest way to identify one of late replacement bodies are the flat stamped Tie Down Hooks that are welded on and the symmetrical half round holes at the bottom of the stake pockets.
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