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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby rgus » Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:56 am

The ones built under navy contract were pained ocean grey at the factory.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby jzimm » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:43 am

Part 2 of Sunderlin's Army Motors article on GTBs says the Navy ones were Ocean grey except the late production ones which were OD. I have yet to see a GTB with factory grey paint. I'm sure they may exsist, but I also know OD factory Navy contract trucks exsist. I question if the archives reflect reality in this case.

Doesn't matter as they look nice with either color.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Bill Scott » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:04 am

I too question that statement. I don't keep all of the documentation I have researched in the past, but I believe that all of them left the factory in O.D. You might try asking Tom Wohlbolt about it. He has an extreme amount of documentation on them.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Bodger Baz » Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:06 am

i have a spare windscreen frame that is grey and Tony Corbin has a parts truck that is also grey underneath the other layers of paint.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Ben Dover » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:08 pm

I had some NOS Gray Canvas GTB Doors that I found folded up in the GTB Passenger seats that I sold.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Bill Scott » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:12 pm

Well, we all have a chance to be wrong. I've just never read anything about factory grey.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Tom Wolboldt » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:21 pm

Hello Group,

I can only address what happened at the Ford assembly plant.

The 203?86 Navy number found by David was given to this truck by the Navy after they received it used from the Army. The original hood number should have been in the 3126xxx through 3127xxx range.

All GTB cargo trucks left the assembly plant plainted OD with 2" tall blue drab registration numbers.

Now the details begin. Not all GTB looking cargo trucks are model GTBs. Only the first 6000 ( which Davids truck is one of ) are model GTB. All of this model were made on an Army Contract.

The other GTB looking cargo truck is model GTBA. This model was made on a Navy Contract. This model started out painted Ocean Grey at Ford and then in late 43 was changed to being painted and delivered from Ford in OD through the rest of the contract ending in late Oct. '44..

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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Bill Scott » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:23 pm

Thanks Tom. I guess we're all right in some form.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby acmack » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:30 pm

Thanks Tom for sorting out my GTB's interesting history.
As a reason for my GTB's service change, I'm thinking that since the GTB's in all 3 branches seemed to have been assigned primarily to airfield duty hauling ordnance that once the Air Force was created in 47', the Army had it's bombers and tactical fixed wings reassigned to the Air Force thus eliminating it's GTB's primary role. And since the Navy was already using the GTBA for the same role it folded the Army GTB's into it's existing fleet.

BTW, what was the first GTB chassis number and date of delivery?

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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby jzimm » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:11 am

So it's safe to say GTB's came form the factory either OD or grey. My question is what were they painted in the field? I want to show mine as an example of what would be found in the Pacific theater of WW2. Were Navy GTB's in the field(not stateside) left OD or repainted grey? I have yet to find a color picture.

I understand the assertion that the Navy repainted them grey due to having that paint on hand, but was that done in all areas of operation or just at major bases.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Ben Dover » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:22 am

Do not eliminate yellow as consideration for the GTB, many were painted yellow.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Bodger Baz » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:54 pm

mine was yellow at some point, on top of the OD, i have been told that it was for vehicle used by the government for road building projects after the war?
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby acmack » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:21 am

I thought the High-Viz/yellow paint was a post war application.

I had a early 42' Federal tractor 94x36 that had a base color of OD, then sky blue then yellow. Each layer had unit markings so I believe these all to be service colors. David
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby Ben Dover » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:14 am

Yellow was used on many airfield vehicles prior to end of WWII.
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Re: Attention GTB Series Owners

Postby rgus » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:24 am

Is this yellow or just faded out OD?
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