WLA 42 of Russia

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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by Evgeny » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:56 am

Hello. Tell me, what is the coating on the internal parts horn? This coating was the same for all series 42 WLA?
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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by OLDABEWLA » Sun Jan 29, 2017 1:02 pm

First picture looks like cadmium finish the second one is natural raw steel finish is what I see.
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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by Evgeny » Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:59 pm

Thanks for the reply. I was going through a few horns in good condition. All in on those details the same mirror finish similar to chrome plating or Nickel plating. Cadmium plating looks dull and didn't quite seem to cover these details.
I have seen many photographs of restored motorcycles WLA42. On all models of V-VII series internal parts horn were painted in the color of the horn (olive). In the early series the insides of the horn was light, similar to the coating cadmium plating.
But all of my horns have been with motorcycles V-series VII and all of them had such a mirror coating. Very strange.
And another question - inside the base of the horn always has a black glossy color (colored paint). But outside this item color sometimes olives, sometimes glossy black. How to paint the detail on the outside?

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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by Evgeny » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:17 pm

No one knows the answer? Or I incorrectly asked the question? I was hoping for your website to find professionals restoration WLA 42, who can help me in restoring my bike. In Russia, no one does not study in detail this motorcycle. Do not pay attention to a series of bike, the right color and finish details. I want to do the right thing and approach the restoration of a very meticulously. But I can't manage without your help because I have no such books and a large number of original spare parts to find answers yourself.

At our local sites for restoration often write and ask questions the people living in Eastern Europe. They are also very poor knowledge of the language. Writing not very clear, confusing words. But we treat them well and always try to help with their questions, because restoration knows no boundaries and linguistic framework. I hope nevertheless that you will change me his attitude and we will be able to communicate on his favorite topic of restoration of motorcycles.

Sincerely, Evgeny.

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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by OLDABEWLA » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:34 pm

Civilian horns are black inside and the WLA's are od green inside.
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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by Evgeny » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:11 pm

OLDABEWLA wrote:Civilian horns are black inside and the WLA's are od green inside.
On my photo the original Gorn military WLA 42. Never was restored. No there is green paint on the inside. The very Foundation of black, the other plate mirror shiny (like a Nickel plating).

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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by Lib45 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:38 am

How sure can one be that horn was never replated or -painted Evgeny?
Later in war, as materials got more scarse, almost everything was simply painted or cadmerized.
Russia didn't receive WLA's lower than type IV's and those all had painted horns (Olive drab).

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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by Evgeny » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:30 am

Lib45 wrote:How sure can one be that horn was never replated or -painted Evgeny?
It's hard for me to argue with you - I have no such experience. But in the photo two disassembled horn. The lower horn with my bike. The top I bought from the person who never has anything not restored. And his horn was in poor condition.
It has never been taken apart and not repaired. Both horns exactly the same black color on the inside. All details and materials the same is seen in the photo. In this case, my horn from the factory was olive on the outside, purchased from a person's horn was black outside.
Plate in the next photo with my horn. It has exactly the same shiny cover as shown above the horn. It's definitely not cadmium plating. I know what it looks like.
This is not the first mountain that I was going through. And they were all black inside with plates, covered with a brilliant layer. A layer of electroplating is similar to anodizing or Nickel plating.
Lib45 wrote:Russia didn't receive WLA's lower than type IV's
It is really so. But there are often motors with natural color block and heads. I also have pumps in white, which was raised to the third series, inclusive. Maybe they were raised from the stock of spare parts. But it is not a fact.
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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by OLDABEWLA » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:19 am

Harley did take civilian painted stock pile parts early in the war repaint and converted them to od green paint and reconfiguration them to military Harleys parts.
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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by 1stCAVREG » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:24 pm

To date, I have never seen a Delco horn originally painted o.d. on the inside. They were all black internally. I still have two new ones on the shelf (sorry, not for sale, dedicated to restorations). If I can get a chance, I will see what the inside looks like.

As to early WWII or late WWII, the Delco horn was used by other H-D models that did not use o.d. horns: US Navy and Police. Can't prove it at this time, but other machines might also have been using the Model-16 horn between 1942-1945 besides Harley as well.

Since the H-D version of the Delco came, externally, in black and o.d., it would have sped up production significantly by painting all interiors black.

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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by OLDABEWLA » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:46 pm

Always nice to inspect original nos parts, they always tell the story of production.

The Cycleray military head lamps are od green on the inside of the military contract ones as the one I purchase was sold to the military return to Harley after the war repainted black on the outside and resold and sent to a Harley dealer.
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Re: WLA 42 of Russia

Post by Evgeny » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:22 am

Can someone show a photo of the disassembled horn, painted in olive green? Preferably horn in condition NOS. Thank you.


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