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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by Travelfix » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:19 am

Johan, in reference to the rear fender reflector, is the metal or aluminum outer ring painted black or just corroded and dirty in the picture you sent? Or maybe OD?
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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by Johan WILLAERT » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:09 pm

It was corroded when I got the bike...

I sprayed it black during restoration...
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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by SteveG » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:58 pm

Johan,
The hole in the handlebars is to hang them when they had chrome plating. The hole would still be there on painted bars to use when dipping in the paint tank.
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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by Johan WILLAERT » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:59 pm

Thanks Steve! Makes sense!
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Delta Winner headlight

Post by Travelfix » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:30 am

Delta Winner headlight - Was the reflector behind the light bulb painted white or chrome?
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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by Johan WILLAERT » Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:16 pm

Is it chrome, cadmium or another metal finish.... but definately not white paint

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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by Craig Johnson » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:06 am

Won this picture on EBAY(of course this is the EBAY photo). The envelope showed up empty and the flap was not even glued down. Oh well. The seller gave a full refund including shipping.

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WW2 Bicycle Data - Serial# questions

Post by ricksouther » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:49 pm

Hello Group.
Wanted to thank every body who has posted in this section, it has been very informative and help full. I was given a early 40's Columbia frame by my grandfather a few years ago and stored it until recently. I have the original (as far as I can tell) crank & skip tooth sprocket, rear hub & rim, frame, forks, struts, seat post, and a badge that may or may not have come on the bike. I have always been a big fan of Military Vehicles and gear and after seeing some of the bikes on this site and others I now I want to restore my bike to the way it would have looked on its way to Europe. I understand my bike is probably not a authentic mil issue so wont be as valuable but still want to honor the era, war and the men and women of the time by making it as close as possible. I saw this site: http://www.theliberator.be/militarybicycles.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "A European Owned Huffman" and noticed how similar my bike is in almost every way. Even the serials are are close... But after scratching away some paint noticed a few stampings I cant find any info about. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Here's some pics and I have the orig full resolution which I will put on Flickr or something.... If anyone knows what the other stamps are of, or mean please let me know..

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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by Johan WILLAERT » Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:25 am

That looks like an early 1940's F-Serial Numbered Columbia Made bike....

Yes, it looks similar to the Militay Contract frames.

Good Luck on the restoration/recreation...

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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by ricksouther » Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:53 pm

Hi Johan... Do you have any idea what the third set of numbers would be?? Ive looked everywhere and the only thing I have seen that remotely looks like the Square before the #1668 is from Military Insignia regiment badges but I dont think thats the case here.... Any help would be great.....

That's 3 sets of numbering on the BB:

H7
F128070 &
1668 Preceded by a square or diamond shaped stamp with a line from the bottom left to top right corner.


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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by Johan WILLAERT » Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:23 am

The H7 is a factory assembly or inspection mark as can be found on most bikes of the era... (letter and number combo)
The F number is the frame's serial number.

Sorry, I have no idea what the third number would be. Maybe some others do
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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by doug p. » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:20 am

I would have to say that it would be a shame to repaint a bike with what looks to be such a good original finish.

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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by ricksouther » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:19 am

Doug I would totally agree,, But its not original paint.
My grandfather bought a old store/collection of bikes from Ohio and brought it back to CA most of the bikes were in good original shape, this frame was a rust bucket, so he had it painted to match what he thought would have been the correct colors from the era..... Going to the SoCal Bike Swamp meet to see if I can find some fenders.... and ask about the 3rd serial number....Also I have original Whizzer rims with bendix hubs for sale or trade for???????


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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by ricksouther » Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:27 am

Does anyone know the treatment process the frames and other parts went though from the manufacture before being painted OD?? i.e. were they parkerized, if so was it the black finish similar to parts off of Indian and Harleys of the same era? or was it a primer?

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Re: WW2 Bicycle Data - Sticky

Post by karl oliver » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:09 pm

Not to be rude in anyway (so please don't be offended), but IS this not a WW2 Bicycle Sticky
and not a ..."How do I mock up my non original to look like a military issue"?

It may just be my opinion...(I know everyone has one), but this topic would probably be
better served outside of this sticky. :?
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