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Postby greenemachine09 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:15 pm

I have a dukw and i need parts (transfer case, bows, gauges, bilge pumps, manuels data plates, tires, and soo much more) and knowledge. i really like this quote first posted by jhscpa General [Dwight David] Eisenhower:

"The DUCK, an amphibious vehicle, proved to be one of the most valuable pieces of equipment produced by the U.S. during the war. Four other pieces of equipment that most senior officers came to regard as most vital to our success in Africa and Europe were the bulldozer, the jeep, the two-and-a-half ton truck, and the C-47 airplane. Curiously enough, none of these is designed for combat."
thanks

Here are the pictures of the dukw in the woods before it was moved:

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Plv3imsq by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
Plv3in5r by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr
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Plv3inhi by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
Plv3inst by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr
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Plv3io4z by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
Plv3ioh5 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr
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Plv3iotb by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
Plv3ip5w by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr
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Pr0mslls by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
Pr0mslzo by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr
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Pr0msmc9 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
Pr0msmnz by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
Pvbdjegl by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
Pr0msn04 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr

Heres some pictures of the "Duck" on the family farm this was the before in the before and after process:

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1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr

Here is some of the stuff that i got out of the duck (sifting through 50, 5 gallon buckets) with a pressure washer:

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1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr

Here is the Duck engine that i got form Mr. Ed:

Heres some restoration of the engine slow and keeping that pace, both before and after!

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1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr Image
1944 GMC Dukw 353 by alangreene@bellsouth.net, on Flickr

This its story:

its a long and complicated story i was looking at a 1941 dodge wc that this man had and his father had a dukw a very long time ago and we didnt know that it was still in existance. i mustered up enough courage to ask him if it was still around there and he told us where it was he said that he had played in it when he was a boy. we headed off after about 2 hours of hiking we decided that we couldnt find it and went back to the guys place. he told us to get in the jeep and he will drive us to the dukw. he pointed out a section in the woods and told us it was up there. we walked through the thick brush, and found it my dad and i were in awe he hadnt seen the dukw in about 20 years in a different location about 1 mile away. the land that it was sitting on had since changed hands and it was the churches "duck" now so we talked to the paster and he told us that it would be brought up at the next buisness meeting. in that span of time about (3 months) some one stole the drivers seat out of the "duck" and it is still MIA today. we analized the moving process and it took about another 5 months to find a mover that would touch it and not charge an arm and a leg. we also had a friend from church that had a hydrylic trailer that was around 40 ft long. and another friend that had a 4wd back hoe, we sent up a date (of course it had to be when i was in school) and freed it from the woods then took it to our farm. the "duck" had been in two floods and it had about 4 in of mud still in it along with trash. it took i think 21 5 gallon buckets to get the mud out of the hull there is still a little bit left in (3 or 4 5 gallon buckets) the "Duck". the whole ordeal not including getting it in the garage took about a year. and that is not the long story. it still had the military paint on it and all the military tires!
thanks for reading.
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DUKW parts

Postby Steve Greenberg » Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:05 pm

Hello,
I have some spare DUKW parts. I think I have a drivers seat. Looks like you need an air tank! I have a spare one and an extra manual or 2. I have other parts but I do not have a list.
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Postby greenemachine09 » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:09 pm

Steve you have been pmd on ur email. thanks and what do u think (keep in mind guys im only 15)?
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Postby Ian Fawbert » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:40 pm

Greenmachine!

Good luck with your dukw. I am no dukwq guy, but it doesnt look that bad- ie- you cant see much ground underneath when you look form the top!

Most important thing i guess i can say is dont give up on her. I'm only 23. I got my first jeep when i was 18, another at 19 and finished the second one about a year ago- still working on the first! Dont let it rule your life, but dont give up on it. It will be one of the coolest things you could have when your older!

Good luck mate, and please keep us all up to date with any progress you make. (the idea of the V6 sounds good too, but if you can find a CCKW etc GMC straight 6, that would be better for long term value and i`m sure parts couldnt be that hard to come across for a GMC 6 in the states.

Cheers from Oz,
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Postby greenemachine09 » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:30 pm

Ian thanks for the great advice and im still thinking about the v6 we went to a big junkyard today and saw the v6 (i will post pics of the yard) that i was going to get. the motor was worse than i first thought but looked promising, the main problem i had with the straight 6 was the underpower part. ive heard of stories where the duck was charging a beach and it stalled, that is where the phrase dead duck came from, and the phrase sitting duck. either way i really thank you for the inspirational story and words, and by all means i will not give up!!!

Alan
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old and new parts

Postby sschroedstl » Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:52 pm

Alan,


looks like you have started on a long project. my father and I have been working on one for a while now.. 9 years or so.. on and off. Originallity is best if available. the engine, transmission, transfer case and drive train were all designed to work together. changing any one the componets will change things down the line. If you change the engine and transmission, it might stick back further into the engine compartment, the drive shafts might have to be modified. there is a prop trnasfer case that sits inbetween the trnasmission and the main transfer case, those shafts would have to be adjusted. the ontrol levers for the transfer case would have to be modified if the transfer case is changed. the prop shaft runs on top of the transfer case, and the gear and cover for the hand crank is on the from of the transfer case, along with the parking brake assembly being on the rear of the case. the other thing to consider about the engine is the way yhtat the air moves thru the dukw. unlike a normal car where the air is forced thru the radiator, the dulw pulls air from the grates behind the drivers seat and then pushed the air thru the radiator and out the side vents. not sure what effect changing the engine will have. also the aircompressor runs off of a drive shaft coming out of the from of the engine thru the radiator, not sure if you would be able to manage this with a different engine.


I can help with parts, some NOS, some take off, i have parts lists from people in canada, virginia, australia and UK. I have cross over # for most of the drive train that I have rebuilt so far. where are you in kentucky.

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Postby greenemachine09 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:09 pm

thanks sschroedstl but there are some things that are wrong with your response and while changing anything will change things on down the line it will only increase the power and will not with my experience change anythiing. i went to chattanooga to their duck facility: http://www.chattanoogaducks.com/. while the trip was extremly fun it was also very informational, the owner told me many things that he has experienced with his ducks (he has four) one with the 270ci that is mostly original, 2 with 350ci's, and one with a 300ci ford motor. the 350s have too much power and overheat easily, the 6 doesnt have enough power, and the 300 is just right. the viking v6 is a 305ci so it isnt much bigger than the 300 so that is what i am basing my decision on. also the 305 is 2 off a 454 so a big engine and i would be putting a gmc in a gmc.
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DUKW

Postby Steve Greenberg » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:42 pm

Alan,
I am a collector of WWII military vehicles. As a collector, I would suggest keeping your DUKW original. It will be worth more money down the road to other collectors that way. Tour DUKW operators are not very concerned with being original, but making money like any business should be.

I have owned my DUKW since 1991 and have been out in the water a lot. The first year I went out in the water 104 times! :shock: I have never had a power problem nor a problem with the original 6 volt electrical. Yes, DUKW's like all WWII MV's are slow but they were not built for speed. The 270 is a bit under powered. I wish I would have bought a DUKW when I was 15!!! You can look forward to many years of fun! :wink: Here are some examples...
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Postby greenemachine09 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:06 pm

Steve thanks for the reply and the amazing pics. but i have a few questions for you did your duck have the original engine in it when you got it? and where did you get the gun ring i would really like one?
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DUKW

Postby Steve Greenberg » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:24 pm

Alan,
My DUKW had the original engine in it when I bought it. I was very lucky...I took my DUKW in the water about 10 mins. after I bought for the 1st time! :shock:

I had the gun ring kit before I bought my DUKW. They are real expensive now. The ring is about $1,000 the 3 legs are around $600 the trolley & cradle are about $700 for the pair and the repro 50 cal. is around $650.
If you shop around you may find better prices. I am just going by what I have seen at the meets over the past year or 2.
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Postby greenemachine09 » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:33 pm

people look in the trailer 1/2 ton + section help me with your knowledge!
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Postby greenjeepster » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:26 pm

Greenmachine
Where are you located in KY? That is an awsome find, I did not think there were any around anymore. It is really too bad that we left most of them in Europe after the war. I live in Lexington and would love to come out and see yours sometime if you are not too far away.
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Postby greenemachine09 » Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:24 pm

greenjeepster i will talk to you through pms.
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Postby nirvana » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:09 pm

Theres been one lurking for decades near fort knox, guy wanted too much. Its pretty well trash now. Theyre still around, just have to look.
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Postby greenemachine09 » Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:47 pm

nirvana there were actually 2 in my county but one was sold at an auction, so yes they are out there beat the bushes! get off the main roads and take plenty of pics!
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