New to me Johnson Furnace M416 Trailer

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New to me Johnson Furnace M416 Trailer

Post by Black643 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:48 pm

I picked up this M416 trailer today. It fit just right on my 10 ft. utility trailer. Snug as a bug all the way home through horrible Ft. Worth traffic.

From the data plate, it is a Johnson Furnace trailer built Nov. 1965 Serial No. 6-0984

It is rusted through in one corner but easy to repair. There is a bowed out area on the right rail but overall not in bad condition considering the age.
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Re: New to me Johnson Furnace M416 Trailer

Post by canorisa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:45 am

What you have there is a M416-A1. Easily identified by the surge brake in the front. Are you going to restore her? Cool find. Congratulations!

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Post by Bill H. » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:29 am

Nice!
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Post by Black643 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:30 pm

canorisa wrote:What you have there is a M416-A1. Easily identified by the surge brake in the front. Are you going to restore her? Cool find. Congratulations!

Joel
For now I will clean her up a bit and find all the parts that are missing or need replaced. I will restore her back to the original OD paint. I can see some of it under the camo paint.

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Re: New to me Johnson Furnace M416 Trailer

Post by canorisa » Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:23 pm

What's missing?
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Post by muttguru » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:54 am

Black643 wrote: For now I will clean her up a bit and find all the parts that are missing or need replaced. I will restore her back to the original OD paint. I can see some of it under the camo paint. Jose
Jose......
just for the record, what you actually have is an M416A1 trailer, manufactured by Parkhurst Mfr. Co, Sedalia. It would have been made at the very earliest from Mid-1978. Sorry to tell you that the dataplate is from a much earlier vehicle.
Get yourself a copy of the appropriate Tech Manual for it, as there are several important differences in parts between the M416 and the M416A1.
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Post by Bill H. » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:57 am

Ken, is it possible that the surge brake casting was added to the earlier Johnson Furnace?
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Post by muttguru » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:02 pm

Bill H. wrote:Ken, is it possible that the surge brake casting was added to the earlier Johnson Furnace?
Bill..... yes, it's possible.....but it would have been a lot of work....including changing the axle, wheel bearing setup, hubs are different, and of course, connecting up the hydraulic braking system.

I think it's more likely that the tub has been switched....there are signs that the tub has been unbolted at some stage so it could have been swapped by a previous owner.

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Re: New to me Johnson Furnace M416 Trailer

Post by Bill H. » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:28 pm

Good points about the brake line and axle change. And, yes, a lot more plausible that the tub was swapped. A tub damages a lot easier than the frame and castings.
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Re: New to me Johnson Furnace M416 Trailer

Post by Black643 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:51 pm

muttguru wrote:
Black643 wrote: For now I will clean her up a bit and find all the parts that are missing or need replaced. I will restore her back to the original OD paint. I can see some of it under the camo paint. Jose
Jose......
just for the record, what you actually have is an M416A1 trailer, manufactured by Parkhurst Mfr. Co, Sedalia. It would have been made at the very earliest from Mid-1978. Sorry to tell you that the dataplate is from a much earlier vehicle.
Get yourself a copy of the appropriate Tech Manual for it, as there are several important differences in parts between the M416 and the M416A1.
Ken
You all are probably correct. No telling where this trailer came from. The tub got swapped out before the previous owner. I think he bought it from a government auction several years ago.

I have an M416 trailer with a bad tub on it. I may unbolt the tub on this one and swap it over to the correct one. I will take the M416A1 frame and turn it into an M274 Mule hauler. Have to pull the tub off anyway to do some patch work on the bed.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: New to me Johnson Furnace M416 Trailer

Post by Black643 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:54 pm

canorisa wrote:What's missing?
The wiring harness is all rotted away. Someone put Bearing Buddies on it along the way. I need the wheel bearing hub caps. I have the tail lights but the wiring is brittle.

Jose

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