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Re: Joes Motor Pool Parts

Post by conrod6 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:11 am

No problem cjv-35 - this just means your JMP speedo was even better than you first thought !

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Post by wo2jeeper » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:41 pm

The 539s is a correct replica. Only difference I noticed is that the last 5 on the patents has a correct top while originals have a half one. Bottom 407 stamp has incorrect font but that will not be vissible and there is not a correct throttle rod installed, arm without spring and cup. Also noticed on the sample I saw that the throttle plate was not set correct. So some tweaking and adjustment are perhaps needed but overall it looked very nice, only a bit to new

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Post by Chuck Lutz » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:02 pm

No offense, but the carbs are not "exactly" the same....they pass the six-foot test but subtle manufacturing differences exist. Don't take my word for that though since I am selling a couple of them but just to set the record straight they are NOT the same!

This is a very good copy, but not a replica...they are different.

For those who don't care about that it is a better choice than a Carter 636 or a Solex...costs not withstanding.
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Post by wo2jeeper » Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:55 am

They are for sale in EU and again they are an excellent replica, approved even bij Carter patent holders. Just to new which is obvious and so making them appear a bit different then originals. But with some wear you will not see much differences in the future. Only on the base 407 stamp. If you need to choose for a rebuilt or a brand spanking new one the choice is easy, can you find an NOS one then go for original.

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Post by dinof » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:49 pm

Ron has them on order but will they ever come in? And at what price are they going to be? I going to guess around $399.00. Replica or not, I'm more concerned on how they are going to run.
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Post by Chuck Lutz » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:31 am

At last report there were about 15 slight mfg differences between Carter and JMP. I think they are made in China. Word has it they are not tested after assembly, probably because of shipping issues associated with gas fumes so those with "issues" can and do slip by. Bummer to buy one that has "issues" you need to adjust or repair right out of the box.

QUALITY CONTROL and China don't always go in the same sentence.

Otherwise....if you have no carb, it will work OK and passes the "six-foot test" once any problems are sorted out.

As a famous man once said "Don't buy the first ones and don't buy the last ones!"
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Post by slopes-2 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:15 am

All,
we are hoping to get some to the convention, if we can.
If not, Ron should have some at the end of this month at the latest.
Chuck, there seems to be a lot of speculation about the carbs, reading your replies , if you are unsure of the facts, just ask.
We have been Gee members for a few years now and have been working on the carbs with a few select dealers for the last 2 years.
We did send out a batch of 20 first off carbs, worldwide to all the our dealers , for the feedback and views, which resulted in considerable changes to the production run. I suspect, Chuck , this is one that you have seen, or you may have seen one of the reports we had come back from the USA dealers on the carbs.
You are correct they are made in China. But they are made in a factory that produces big carbs for the American hot rod market and other European OEM brands.
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Post by Mark Tombleson » Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:42 am

I, for one, withhold any judgement until we have photos of the latest and greatest reproduction WO carb! :D
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Post by Chuck Lutz » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:52 am

Photos are great, but.....I would love to be able to do a side-by-side analysis to see if the second batch of JMP/Carter 539s have addressed the issues found in the early run. Yes, we are splitting hairs here, but as with all reproduction items the question is how close to the original can they be made and what percentage of the buyers out there even give a hoot.

I think it will end up much like the question of using a repop tub or not. Should you repair your original tub or go with a repop? The original being "original" and the repop having various manufacturing differences that are not that hard to find if one knows what to look for. I've seen some miraculous restored tubs and I've seen some jeeps with repop tubs that had nothing done to them to "fix" the differences. That makes a difference to some guys and not to others. Probably the same with Carter vs. JMP/Carter 539S carbs!
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Re: Joes Motor Pool Parts

Post by Destructo6 » Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:14 pm

Has anyone had a chance to examine the Joe's Motor Pool F-marked pintle hitch? The eBay ads claim that it is forged steel, not cast steel.

For what era GPW would they best fit in?
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Post by rjbeamer » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:25 pm

Most reputable Pintle hitch manufactures today are making them with the drop forge method as the cast units are questionable for abuse and liability. Or at least the bottom jaw anyway.

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Post by wo2jeeper » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:53 pm

Even when restoring old carbs you must be glad with these reproductions. Every part is interchangable and so there will be plenty throttle base again. No need to bush old ones!

And for the quality, most know I restored a lot originals so I can and have judged the replica over here. They are to expect excellent and only minor details will be different. Good to determine later on when parts mix up. (I don't have any relation to the seller so this is just my opinion.)

And another benefit is that the hoarded original carbs will come to the market again for more decent prices.

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Re: Joes Motor Pool Parts

Post by Scoutpilot » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:06 pm

Just wonderful! Maybe the price of cores will fall. And if you don’t want those nasty old worn out throttle flanges, you can send them to me. I’ll be glad to take them off your hands.
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Re: Joes Motor Pool Parts

Post by Farrell Fox » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:44 pm

Just in case people were curious, this is the latest photo of a JMP Carter carb. Granted, there are a few details that are point deductions, however they are a far better than a post war carb with major incorrect details or worse, a Solex.

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Re: Joes Motor Pool Parts

Post by cjv-35 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:07 pm

For us owners of WWII post war equipped W.O Carter carb jeeps, true they are not original to the jeep, but at least they are a USA Carter Manufactured item. Would have to state that the Joe's Motor Pool repro does look great though.






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