How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Fabrizio » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:16 am

Were you working at the NASA? Because the Jeeps were working at the US Army ;)
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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Chuck Lutz » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:46 am

Hmm...so the French Army sent and then returned all 28,000 M201s to France after leaving Algeria? How would you know if any M201 was used in a "war scene" at this point in time anyway? Actually I would bet a few euros that 28,000 M201s did not make it to Algeria...much like many G503s in WWII and Korea did not make it out of the US but were used to train the troops. Not to mention those sent/left in Southeast Asia.

Look at it this way....most of the G503s in France were probably left-over WWII vehicles. Some of those sat in fields in England and in France and were never sent to forward units when the war had ended. Yet they are as sought after as some of those that were found/documented to have been used during WWII.

The whole idea is to honor the defeat of the Axis, the Allied soldiers...and as such we are taking pride in restoring a vehicle and not so much trying to convince anyone that YOUR particular vehicle was in combat. You can do that with a G503 but not with an M201 unless you are presenting it as being in service during those later conflicts. As noted, many in Europe either do not know the difference, do not care and slap stars on them and present them as "war scene" vehicles from the Second World War.

So...ask 100 jeep owners which they will prefer to present as a "WWII jeep" and 100 will vote for the G503.
Ask them which they can afford and some may opt for the M201 as it is cheaper.

However....they are what they are and the M201 is not a Second World War vehicle, period.
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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Mark Jesic » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:16 pm

And the G503 is far more sought after.

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Post by 1943Willysgpw » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:32 pm

Does Tom W. and his data base have a rough idea about the O.P.'s original question? I am curious how many survived as well.
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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by twinflyer17 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:07 am

Mark Jesic wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:16 pm
And the G503 is far more sought after.
Amen. Ask an average Joe questions about war history in the past century. I bet 99% of them have heard of WWII and can at least point on a map as to where it generally took place (at least for the European theater). Ask them to name wars after WWII and to point on a map where those wars have taken place. I bet a majority of them will stare at your stupidly and have no clue. That said, even for people who know very little about WWII there will be more of a 'wow' factor with an authentic G503 vs. an m201, regardless if most of our jeeps on American soil have never seen combat. The fact of the matter is that people are more interested in WWII than any other war, hence how it has become the most studied and written about war in history, and also hence why people have more of a desire for authentic WWII items, specifically jeeps, and are willing to pay the additional price for them.

Now, all that said, I have nothing against m201s and still have plenty of respect for those who own and restore them :D
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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Fabrizio » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:53 am

I think the average Joe will not see a difference between a genuine g503 and a M201 with a star....
As he will not notice my darn keyed glovebox lock 😁
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Post by 1943Willysgpw » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:03 am

The "average Joe" thinks my M151 is a WW2 war jeep and combat vets from desert storm tell me my GPW is just like the one they drove in Kuwait... :lol: :lol: :lol: So, I think it all boils down to the buyer and what he/she is willing to pay. Also, it depends on the knowledge of the potential buyer. We have a thread on this forum where a guy bought a M38a1 and thought he had a WW2 jeep. Just saying. Still doesn't answer the posed question from the O.P.
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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by twinflyer17 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:15 am

Hmm, both good points :lol: Honestly speaking, though, it's up to the buyer to educate themselves prior to making a purchase. Clearly we could all buy any variation flat fender, paint it any color, and as long as we include a star on the hood we'll probably be able to sell it as an "authentic WWII jeep that served in combat." All I'm trying to say is that most people will ask if an old military jeep is WWII before anything else, at least in the experience I've had with my GPW.
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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Mark Jesic » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:32 pm

Yes ,it was me who bought the M38A1, thinking it was WW2 period. I was very inexperienced in those days, and thought if the screen folded down it belonged to WW2. Then i got a jeep education. Right guys, lets get back to how many jeeps have survived from WW2. I would estimate about 65000. There must be 5000 in England, so lets have your opinions. :D

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Post by 1943Willysgpw » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:37 pm

Mark Jesic wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:32 pm
Yes ,it was me who bought the M38A1, thinking it was WW2 period. I was very inexperienced in those days, and thought if the screen folded down it belonged to WW2. Then i got a jeep education. Right guys, lets get back to how many jeeps have survived from WW2. I would estimate about 65000. There must be 5000 in England, so lets have your opinions. :D
Really did not remember who it was. Hope I did not offend. :oops: Just wanted to get the thread back on track.
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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Mark Jesic » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:48 pm

Absolutely no offence taken. The only person who has never made a mistake is the one that has done nothing. I laugh about it now but i did enjoy the M38A1. Nowt like a WW2 jeep though. O.K. Guys HOW MANY ??? :?:

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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Pontiac_Formula » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:03 pm

I've got one in England!

Who's going to start counting.... :D

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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Mark Jesic » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:09 am

Count me in Ed, thats two. :lol:

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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Fabrizio » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:02 am

A good way to have an estimation would be through insurance companies, at least for the running ones
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Re: How many jeeps, survived after the World War II ?

Post by Mark Jesic » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:28 am

Fabrizio, this could lead to another major debate on how many are NOT running, there are plenty on this site in various stages of restoration.


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