Jeff Rowsam and a few other promInent MV collectors played a major role in the success of this measure.
Than most?? Well, then let's talk about motorcyclists without helmets and how safe we compare against them? Or whether motorcycles are as safe as automobiles. Yet motorcycles are allowed to operate unrestricted here, aren't they? So why hold milvehs to some absurd standard? If milvehs are so unsafe, then DOT ought to have amassed statistical evidence of such. They didn't, or couldn't.truth is these vehicles are most likely less safe then most.
Yes, agreed. But is it to such a respect that these vehicles cannot be used, but rather deserve to be limited to parade-only functions? ??? In many states, specific laws already require some vehicles to be upgraded, ie. seat belts, signal lights, etc. So if the owner wants to use the truck, he/she would be required to make those modifications. Wisconsin already had such an assortment of laws (Wis. Statute Ch. 347 and Wis. Admin. Code Trans305).It is true in some respects.
Heh, heh. Well, Ben seems to appreciate tossing out the short one-liners, but rarely supports his comments in-depth. As Tom pointed out, any vehicle can become unsafe through lack of maintenance or repairs. It's certainly not a condition unique to milvehs. In fact, my experience has shown that obtaining parts or manuals for old milvehs is generally easier than getting those for an antique civvy vehicle. I can obtain nearly every part for my 33-year old Pinzgauer with 3 days, the most common ones from my local NAPA. The problem with a poorly-maintained vehicle is a problem with the owner, not a design flaw within the trucks themselves. I've never been in the military (flat feet and a broken neck), and I'm neither Austrian nor Swiss, but I can fix Pinzgauers. In fact, last year I logged nearly 200 hrs. of repairs & maintenance work on my truck. In my opinion, this issue simply has no bearing on whether milvehs deserve to be legal to register in Wisconsin.To hear him tell it(as he often does), anyone that is not US Army trained has no business owning a former US military vehicle.
He said, she said? Whatever. I see no gain from trying to make others look bad. But I'll also be quick to defend my actions against others who seek to make me out as the "bad guy" in this affair. The proof's in the paperwork for anyone who wants a look. Mike, you're in Madison, so if you've got questions, let me know.
Ya got me beat, by a long shot. I wasn't intending to denegrate you or your knowledge. This past hassle in Wisconsin was such a complex matter that one-liners rarely covered the issues. But sometimes you've tossed out tidbits that only seemed to stir up others. I felt that your comments would have been more helpful if they had been a bit more fully explained.
Anyway, no offense intended, hopefully none taken.
undysworld wrote:No worries Mike. I hope I see you on the road someday. Given a chance, I'll swap you a ride in my Pinz for a ride in that '69 AMX...
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