Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
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Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
Hi fellows,
I recently came accross this ARMY WORK ORDER: http://www.archive.org/details/MwoOrdG1-w43M38M38a1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
According to this, on each side of the axle one grease fitting has to be removed.
Which one is meant, I have two on each side...
I appreciate your advice,
regards
Philipp
I recently came accross this ARMY WORK ORDER: http://www.archive.org/details/MwoOrdG1-w43M38M38a1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
According to this, on each side of the axle one grease fitting has to be removed.
Which one is meant, I have two on each side...
I appreciate your advice,
regards
Philipp
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
There are only two, one on each side pointed toward the rear. The upper fittings you see are Vents. On the M-38/M-38A1 they are calibrated to release at a certain pressure loaded, you will note a little cap on top that you can raise with your thumbnails.
The Army noticed a problem of drivers or mechanics over greasing the rear wheel bearings resulting in failed outer seals and greasy brake shoes. The cure was to immediately order the grease fittings removed and a plug installed until the next grease interval indicated in the LO. Best way to lube the rear bearings is slowly and sparingly with a hand operated gun. Pump slowly until the spring loaded valve starts to rise and stop. Some grease may appear, do not add any more.
The LO is confusing as to how to lube this area, it indicates removal and hand packing, that is an error, the grease fittings are for that purpose. Those CJ2A-CJ-5 owners will notice(Correction) a grease fitting also, there is no pressure relief valve on the CJ, just a small hole at the top, slowly pump grease in by hand until it just shows at the hole on top.
The Army noticed a problem of drivers or mechanics over greasing the rear wheel bearings resulting in failed outer seals and greasy brake shoes. The cure was to immediately order the grease fittings removed and a plug installed until the next grease interval indicated in the LO. Best way to lube the rear bearings is slowly and sparingly with a hand operated gun. Pump slowly until the spring loaded valve starts to rise and stop. Some grease may appear, do not add any more.
The LO is confusing as to how to lube this area, it indicates removal and hand packing, that is an error, the grease fittings are for that purpose. Those CJ2A-CJ-5 owners will notice(Correction) a grease fitting also, there is no pressure relief valve on the CJ, just a small hole at the top, slowly pump grease in by hand until it just shows at the hole on top.
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
Well,
for me, there is no distinction between these two - I greased them both with the hand-gun, as every spring...
Am I blind?
Philipp
for me, there is no distinction between these two - I greased them both with the hand-gun, as every spring...
Am I blind?
Philipp
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
perhaps this helps.
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
And now you know the difference. I have a few NOS if for some reason grease fittings have been installed instead of the correct Pressure Relief Fittings. Air Mail to Europe is quick and inexpensive.
The Pressure Relief Fittings must be in place, without them installed the risk of grease getting to your brake shoes is very great.
The Pressure Relief Fittings must be in place, without them installed the risk of grease getting to your brake shoes is very great.
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
ok, how much are they including shipping to Germany?
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Less than $20.00, probably closer to $15.00.
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
Hello Philipp,philipp wrote:Hi fellows,
I recently came accross this ARMY WORK ORDER: http://www.archive.org/details/MwoOrdG1-w43M38M38a1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
According to this, on each side of the axle one grease fitting has to be removed.
Which one is meant, I have two on each side...Philipp
I have a feeling that this particular MWO was eventually rescinded.
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
Just a reminder to carefully grease the M-38/M-38A1 rear wheel bearings every 12,000 miles or every couple years if you drive less than 12,000 miles per year.
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Just another reminder for this very important detail.
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
How many of you M-38/M-38A1 owners have serviced your rear wheel bearings?
It is an often neglected service. Be careful, do not use too much grease.
It is an often neglected service. Be careful, do not use too much grease.
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
Glad I stumbled across this thread. I just happened to notice the vents on top of the axle tubes as I was removing the wheel cylinders and wondered what the heck they were.
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Pump real slow and easy till you jut see the cap on the vent just start to move and stop.
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Re: Rear axle: grease fittings to be removed
Well that was pretty slick. Cleaned up around the cap and plugs and was pleased when both plugs came out easily. I had to hunt around the chassis for an appropriate size grease fitting and found one on the steering bell crank.
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If toy pump too hard or too much, it can blow the seals on the backing plates. Not good for the linings.
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