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M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:29 pm

I have a M151a1 with the FCP fuel injected engine has not run in years I was wondering if it has any collector value this way or should I pull out engine and replace it with a standard one,Engine in it now has injection pump taken apart ,I have all parts for it,engine is not a 151 engine,body has many test ports and gauges in it, exhaust is changed,lots of plumbing and wiring on it,I read some place they only made 2 of these,Ford modified them up in New York in 1972.I might be better off selling it and buying a standard M151.Any info on it would help,Thanks
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by W. Winget » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:03 am

It's rarer as a Test bed, and if possible I would trade it for an equivalent MUTT that hasn't had all the mods you’re mentioning. Rust, holes you'd have to fill, additional parts, etc. all play into trade value.

Is there a "Type" of engine dataplate on her? If it was just a European model car engine grafted into a US M151A2 as a manufacturing experiment, then there may be little value, but if it's done at the factory with US parts from a potential US source I'd think it might have more historical significance. Or for that matter was it a base M151 block with an injector head assembly put in her?

Can't say how much Photos would be appreciated by those of us that have lived the MUTT development and history.

I can trace my experiences back to the 60's reading Dad's copies of PS magazine (Comic books for a kid...) in Germany then the US as he served.

I have a cannibalization point 71 Ford (hit on right front fender) that was stripped, then released as residue through DRMO in 76 awaiting restoration after the Liberty truck. LTC Thad Mindenhall used to own it and I acquired it after he passed away, no SF97, but I do have the DRMO sales info which is neat to have documentation on.
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by Rickf » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:40 am

They did experiment with fuel injection on the 151 engine using the systems in place from the early electronic injection systems. I can't remember where I saw those articles but they were official govt.papers on it. If you have one of those units then it would be worth some money if you found the right collector. As far as getting it running, that might be a stretch.
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:30 am

Engine is not a m151, dist is up front on pass side,mech fuel injection pump is mounted between dist and block,the parts all look factory installed all are painted the same green,mech injectors are threaded into head,The workmanship is really good .I will try to post some pics.call me if any Questions 507 339 1300 Randy
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Post by muttguru » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:23 pm

In early 1967 Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Tx researched the development of a fuel injection system for the M151A1. The report was titled "Conversion of a four-cylinder M151 gasoline engine to a stratified-charge engine."

The report is /was available recently under Ref.No. AD820248 / AR-627 dated 30-May-1967. This may (or may not) be the one for your M151A1.

As Rick has already said....pictures would be a great help !

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by Rickf » Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:27 pm

What country are you in? There have been a lot of conversions done overseas.
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:33 pm

I will try for pictures tomorrow, keeps telling me images to large tonite when I download them,
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:42 am

My computer is having problems with pics ,I could send them to someones smartphone and they could post them,
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by Rickf » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:53 am

Have you tried using Postimage? Upload the pics to Postimage then just copy and paste to the forum.
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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:53 pm

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:38 pm

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:48 pm

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

Post by dixcrix » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:01 pm

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Re: M151A1 ford combustion process

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