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Re: M151A1 begining of new project

Post by Hell On Wheels » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:08 am

Hey Rick I need someone to make my lines I don't have the tube bender or flare kit. If some here can make them it would be nice.
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Re: M151A1 begining of new project

Post by Rickf » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:56 am

I could probably do it as I have some of the small lines already off but I would have to take the bigger lines off of mine to duplicate them and right now I am jammed up getting ready for a trip on Labor day. I think you are wanting this stuff quickly. Hopefully someone else is able to do it on short notice.
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Re: M151A1 begining of new project

Post by Hell On Wheels » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:26 pm

I ordered some stencils from Rick and made the mistake ordering the stencil stickers thinking along I ordered the paint stencils as before :oops: oh well this will hold me up until the major strip down, So what is the location for the following:

24 Volts: Is it on the box or body?
Max Speed: above the gages or by the grab bar?
Antifreeze: any location?

I know the placement of all other stencils these three I would have to take a guess. Thanks in advance for your input.
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Re: M151A1 begining of new project

Post by Hell On Wheels » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:34 am

Hello again, its been awhile and now I have a new question. What is used to support the airlines below the front lift bracket? I went ahead and made the lines and routed them from what I have seen across the board and in TM's.

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Re: M151A1 begining of new project

Post by Rickf » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:49 pm

I have not seen any supports on any of the ones I have worked on.The way they are bent they are pretty stable just as they are. It looks like you may have used copper line? That may shake around but the original copper alloy lines were almost as stiff as steel lines. And I do have some steel lines I got off of am early A1 or straight 151.
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Re: M151A1 begining of new project

Post by Hell On Wheels » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:11 pm

Rick,

I did make them out of copper based on what I had originally on the engine of the same materiel but were butchered up with rubber hoses in between each part. So what your saying is the original material used is copper alloy for A1 models? Because all my lines are copper so would only the line from the air intake to the air pump and from the carburetor to distributor copper alloy? Looking over my engine serial number appears to be the original mod number. Just trying to be as close to the A1 vintage. I know lots of folks convert from A1 fuel system and gen to A2 but I'm staying all A1.
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Re: M151A1 begining of new project

Post by Rickf » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:02 am

I have seen steel lines, cooper/nickel alloy like they use in brake lines and all copper. Unless you are driving it as a daily driver I would not worry about the copper lines. Copper lines on a daily driver can work harden and crack but it takes a lot of vibration and movement, you are not going to get that in parades and weekly drives to car shows and the like. On older oil pressure gauges with copper line you will see the line is coiled so the line acts like a spring spreading out the movement in the metal. I would always have problems with then right at the fittings.
That might be a good question for Ken, is there a spec anywhere for the original lines? I cannot recall ever seeing those lines rusty?
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Re: M151A1 begining of new project

Post by Hell On Wheels » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:11 am

I agree and remember when I was in the Army and a mechanic I only worked on M151A2 in Korea during the phase period in the late 80's we would use what ever material available so I totally understand and found it a bit odd that all my lines are copper and old knowing there were on for a while. Yes Ken's input would be great.
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