Title Help from Idaho to NJ

[Airborne Bob]

My sidekick.... an all original 1944 Remington Rand, just like the one I carried in my holster for a year in Vietnam.

[Buggy Man]

So why not do this? When you find another one that's closer geographically and you've looked it over and are ready to put down the money, make a trip to your local DMV office and walk right up to the title clerk and ask her point blank about the particular title situation with the jeep you are contemplating buying.The one thing you are probably going to want to do is make sure the title papers say something like, AMG 2DR WAGON or something like that. Not 1969 M151A1. Once you flip the title into your name, you'll also definitely want to ask for the New Jersey QQ plates (historic vehicle). Much cheaper on insurance but more importantly, you won't have to go thru state inspection and have some former military guy recognizing it and flagging it. When I got my QQ plates I quietly went back outside and ran like a thief in the night.

Bob thanks for posting the above. Good advice. My A2 came from NV and actually said "M151" on the Nevada title (doesn't on the Va title as Va DMV doesn't recogize that "name").
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This thing holds my SS papers, etc., .

Bob
I thought you were in the American Army...... Just kidding....

Bob, You got yours before 911. Remember where those pilots that crashed into the WTC got there illegal paperwork? Yup, NJ DMV! They have cracked down to the point of being ridiculous now.

Thought that they got their IDs through VA DMV? I know right after the attacks, VADMV (also) got real anal retentive about paper work. Maybe it was that way with all of the DMVs?


now I have to find all that stuff again, do they think I morphed into someone else? .

Well, hopfully, he's a better looking guy then the one I met up at Aberdeen (sorry, couldn't resist).

Now for the firearms aspect of this thread ( ), I had to wait about 12 hours for my backround check to come back for my Mossberg 930 SPX...... I usually get delayed

Matt

[Buggy Man]

My sidekick.... an all original 1944 Remington Rand, just like the one I carried in my holster for a year in Vietnam.

Bob so you were issued a Remington Rand? My Granfather was issued a Colt M1911 (non A1) when he was in WWII. Had a chance a couple of years back to pick up a Rem-Rand at the local "shop" but passed as it had been nickeld and the markings were barely visiable. Always wondered how well that thing would have short as a lot of those old GI warhorses shoot wonderfully.

Matt

[Airborne Bob]

Hi Matt,

Most of the .45s in the field in Vietnam were worn out old WWII 1911A1's. Most were Colts, but Ithica made them and also the sewing machine company, Singer. Also the typewriter company, Remington Rand had a contract. They were all duplicates of one another and the parts totally interchangable, and yes, VERY reliable. You could drop this gun int he mud and pick it up and fire it.

So it's hard to find one from WWII that is intact, that is... with the original finish and with all the original parts. Just like with our jeeps, armorers weren't concerned with "originality," they just needed to get a .45 fixed and back on the range. So this RR is kind of special becasue all the numbers match, etc. I remember mine was a RR because I though it odd that they didn't issue me a Colt. But then I came to like that old gun because it was rare and different. So I found this one in my local gun shop and all the numbers checked out and man... I just had to have it b/c it was the one I carried, only in MUCH better condition. This gun is like brand new. Made in late 1944 and never left storage, never went overseas.

I used to leave the wire with it in my holster... round chambered and then a new one reinserted into the mag for an extra shot. Safety off and hammer at half cock (which is also a safety). When needed, pull it out while pulling the hammer to full cock position and you're ready to rock and roll. I can hit the broad sid of a barn with it if I'm inside the barn.

No, seriously, I qualified expert on the thing (one of only 5 guys in my OCS class)... don't ask me how... must have gotten a lucky one with a tight barrel. But this one is real tight too, and shoots real well. Now I can hit the broad side of a barn from 50 meters outside the barn.

[raymond]

Bob

Be careful or you'll shoot your eye out

Raymond

[Sgt_Wulf]

IN NEW MEXICO

An agent of the MV Dept inspects the VIN Number
The title company takes the form from the VIN ins[pection and does an NCIC check to see if the vehicle was stolen
If there's a hit they check with the other state since some vehicle numbers are duplicated
if not, then the title company generates a New Mexico title for the vehicle
cost 1 bond for the VIN inspection (protects the state from suit over issuing title) about a $100
title itself $25
title co. fee $20
not you do not have to register for the road.....only title! cheaper
takes about three weeks to get the paperwork.........vehicle has to be in New Mexico for VIN inspection

Well I wish I lived there that sounds too simple. I do have a friend in Arizona!

[moose53]

heres a link to the nj dmv instructions for non-titled vehicles. its not really a big deal. most states will not title old vehicles so every state has a process to enable you to register your vehicle.

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Vehicles/nontitled.pdf

all you need is the previous owners registration and a bill of sale.

Jim

[Rickf]

That works fine until you walk in with a M-151A1. That is not in their data base so now the entire agency screams to a stop. The on duty police officer now has his hand on his weapon and everyone is staring at you! Been there, done that. Really, not quite that drastic but close. If it is not in their data base then they do not want to deal with it and at best you will have to go to Trenton personally and press your case there. Last I heard they had closed that office to walk-ins due to budget cuts. Along with the special inspection units you would have to go to next. I hate this state!

Rick

[Airborne Bob]

its not really a big deal.

It's not really a big deal in the state of NJ until you fork over some serious personal cash for a known illicit vehicle, tow it into the state, park it in your yard and then try to get it legally titled and registered in the state of NJ, depending on what mood the DMV is in that day to accept your vehicle's paperwork. Really no big deal at all.

[moose53]

That works fine until you walk in with a M-151A1. That is not in their data base so now the entire agency screams to a stop. The on duty police officer now has his hand on his weapon and everyone is staring at you! Been there, done that. Really, not quite that drastic but close. If it is not in their data base then they do not want to deal with it and at best you will have to go to Trenton personally and press your case there. Last I heard they had closed that office to walk-ins due to budget cuts. Along with the special inspection units you would have to go to next. I hate this state!

Rick

Ford, Willys, AMG and jeep are all in their database. of course, if you are out of your mind you could go in there with m-151a1 on the paperwork..... mine is a ford jeep, which in fact it is....

Jim

[moose53]

its not really a big deal.

It's not really a big deal in the state of NJ until you fork over some serious personal cash for a known illicit vehicle, tow it into the state, park it in your yard and then try to get it legally titled and registered in the state of NJ, depending on what mood the DMV is in that day to accept your vehicle's paperwork. Really no big deal at all.

well, i was referring to the procedures dmv listed. dealing with dmv employees can always be frustrating, and thats the same in most states.

i bought a M101a1 trailer from the gummint which i recovered from the Nat'l Guard facility in Bordentown NJ. I had all the state forms properly filled out, the SF-97 from the feds, a paid bill of sale, and a photo of the dataplate. they refused to register it, because somewhere in their database somebody registered a chris craft boat with the same serial number. i had to go back three times, and make a pencil tracing of the dataplate before i got my registration.

Jim

[199th MP]

i bought a 416 trailer and took the form 97 to the calif dmv, where they refused to accept the paperwork as "correct", because the vin only had 3 numbers. i actually had to tow the trailer there with a one day permit so they could look at the data plate and confirm that there were, indeed, only 3 numbers. after that, it only took 2 months to get the title. and $87.

[Rickf]

You should have seen what I went through to get the hull identification number CORRECTED on my boat!!! It was wrong on the title when I bought it, it was wrong on all of the insurance info that was in the boat from the P/O. The P/O said it was the same number as the title he got from the original owner which meant it was wrong then too. Not only was one digit but TWO digits were wrong! Pencil drawings, towed the boat to DMV AND to the State marine police. Finally a letter to BAJA who were able to trace the boat to it's origin through the system and verify the number of the boat sold to the original owner as the same number I was showing to DMV.

Here is the BEST part..............................This boat is a go fast boat, they are a hot ticket stolen item type of boat. Cops are supposed to watch the numbers right? This boat had a window full of Coast Guard inspection stickers!!!! In 15 years NOBODY EVER VERIFIED THE FREAKIN' NUMBER!!!! The number is right on the top right rear corner of the hull in plain sight. Ya gotta love it.


Rick

[moose53]

i'll be moving my mutt down to nj soon Rick, bought a car carrier to cart it around on...

Jim