Braden Capstan Winch - Spare Parts - Discussion

[Gustl]

I know little about capstan winch except that it is rare and expensive?
Now there is one that i found and I would like to seek anyone opinion on this one regarding the value.

Right now there is a N.O.S. one on the bay. Only the head, nothing else. 8 hours left and at $ 3.000,- now.
Dont know if I am allowed to place the link here in this sticky. Its item # 300516547825

Update: Auction has ended at about $ 3.000,-

[aicastro2010]

AiC,
The photo's you posted of the Captan Head and Repro plate look like a good start on a full winch set up. Does the deal you are looking at come with any of the mounting and drive shaft components?

Price for head and plate usually run in the sub $2000 range. Complete system may run $2500 to $3500 if you can find one.

Gary

Hi Gary,

No other mounting hardware aside from the one pictured...i hope i may be able to afford it...the guy who owns this had it since the 60s..

Thanks,
AiC

[ElwoodJayBlues]

For your interest.

http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=182014

[DavidA]

Since we havn't seen much in the way of action here on the page lately, I thought I would give you guys something new. I'm starting up a webpage to cover the installation and other things related to the Braden winch. Anyone that wants to send me photos and info related to the Braden or other capstan winches, I am looking for more to share.

Here is a little taste of what is out there as far as other makes of Capstans. Any photos that resemble any of your stuff is purely coincidental and if you think I am bustin your chops or stealing your photos without giving credits or getting permission, let me know and I will remove them or give credits where credits are due. Sadly, I don't know where I got these. Anyhow...more to come!

Dave's Capstan Winch Webpage

[DavidA]

Going back to Nov. 2009
Gustl

Other question:
With my Braden capstan winch installed I dont have the possibility to use the hand crank any more. The owner of a Link Belt capstan winch told me, that he can still use the hand crank. It needs much more muscle power as he also moves the winch by cranking, but it works. I dont understand how it can work, once the winch is installed. Does the Link Belt winch have any connecting possibility to the hand crank or did I misunderstand something?

ElwoodJayBlues wrote:
Gary25 wrote:
Gustl
I don't know what your friend is referring to concerning the hand crank. Once the winch is hooked up, there is NO way to use the hand crank. This is true for both the Link Belt and the Bradan as they both mount the same and run directly off of the crank hub.



Fast forward: You are both correct however I was looking around the ol web and discovered that there is a winch that was mounted on the front of jeeps or Land Rovers that maybe you can crank. Here is a photo of what appears to be a crank and the offset drive assembly that allows the hand crank to be used for cranking the capstan itself or possibly cranking the engine. More on this later I guess. (edited 8/7/11)

(further edited 8/9/11)
Was snooping some more on this type of winch and came across an Oz website that discussed the winch in detail. This site talked about the origins of the company and that the Aeroparts winches are for the Land Rover. Now if some Aussie guys will jump in and let us know whether or not you can crank the motor through this winch, that would give this post some clarity. aulro.com




That's it !!

[ElwoodJayBlues]

Since we havn't seen much in the way of action here on the page lately, I thought I would give you guys something new. I'm starting up a webpage to cover the installation and other things related to the Braden winch. Anyone that wants to send me photos and info related to the Braden or other capstan winches, I am looking for more to share.

Sorry Dave, I saw this just today.

What pictures do you need?
I'd really like to help you on this!


Let me know!

EJB

[Gustl]

Here you go:

The owner of this jeep insists on being able to crank his jeep though the link belt winch is installed:





Unfortunately I only could take these pics, could not try to crank it by myself...

[ElwoodJayBlues]

Gustl, that is NOT the Link- Belt winch and it is NOT the Braden winch.
It must be some different brand...

EJB

[DavidA]

The winch in Gustl's photo appears to be the Aeroparts winch used on the Land Rover. The mounting plate is similar to the ones used with Braden's but from the shape of the drum, I would say Aeroparts.

I have contacted an owner of one of these winches to see if we can get some more information on the thing. Here is a photo from the web that shows a crank with the winch but I don't know yet whether it cranks the motor or the winch itself. More info will be forthcoming....I hope

[Gustl]

Gustl, that is NOT the Link- Belt winch and it is NOT the Braden winch.
It must be some different brand...

EJB

Aha, learned something again! I had no idea, that there are more brands than the Braden and Link-Belt winches out there.

The winch in Gustl's photo appears to be the Aeroparts winch used on the Land Rover. The mounting plate is similar to the ones used with Braden's but from the shape of the drum, I would say Aeroparts.

I have contacted an owner of one of these winches to see if we can get some more information on the thing. Here is a photo from the web that shows a crank with the winch but I don't know yet whether it cranks the motor or the winch itself. More info will be forthcoming....I hope

The owner told me, that you can only crank the motor AND the winch at the same time. But turning the winch while hand-cranking, is lots of efford and not very practicable.

[Halsey]

Hi folks,

I have what I believe to be a winch head for the capstan winch. Can someone tell me what's its current worth is?

Its the only part that does not have a price listed here:

http://www.capstanwinch.com/winch-kit.htm

Seems to be in very good condition.

Thanks for any and all info, it is appreciated,

Chris

[DavidA]

I have seen them go for many prices however the average is in the $750 to $1250 range for the winch only with the whole price depending on what exactly the winch condition is. If there is no top cap or the main drive gear is damaged or the casting is damaged, it could go for a lot less. It is all in the eye of the guy who wants it. I want it ... I want it... I want it... drives the price and the value. It is all in who wants it and when.

Remember one thing. The winch is only the beginning. It will need a mounting plate, a drive assembly, mounting on the jeep and a lot more to be a really complete winch and that could run into the thousands of dollars. $$$$

It is probably one of the most desired accessories on the WWII jeep and that is why it is so in demand/valuable.

[Halsey]

Thanks for the info,

I'll probably tell the owner to sell it at $1500 and see if it goes...

Looks like they are rare, its the only one I've ever seen in real life. Seems to be in very good condition. Clean and green. Once I saw it was military and not civi, thought I better start asking questions so we didn't sell for the wrong price...

Thanks again, and have a good day!


Chris

[dennis baker]

dave...........here is a couple pics of my reworked wood bumper block to accomodate the capstan winch........
i couldnt bring myself to 'discard' the wood filler, as per the willys instructions..........and someone said it could not be done. by the way i love your winch site......

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[DavidA]

Thanks for showing us there is a way to save the strength of the added block when mounting the winch. Of course this would probably never have happened during the war because most of the guys would have just thrown the wood on the fire to keep them warm over there in Europe and the termites in New Guinea would have sucked that oak up like a Snickers bar.

Truth is, the winch was probably not very practical at all but it served a purpose. That purpose was the development of better winches later on after all the kinks and failures were established. I still love the look of them on the bumpers of these jeeps. It is an awesome addition.

I would put mine on my early Willys but I don't want to remove the original rivets on its frame horns. What a dilemma.